I think I'll sell my boat and crew for you!
Gary
S/V Expresso
'75 C&C 35 Mk II
EGYC

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 1:47 PM, <cenel...@aol.com> wrote:

> I may be a little generous but as skipper I usually provide lunch
> sandwiches, drinks (water and Gatorade while racing, beer and liquor after
> racing is over) and snacks.
>
> If there is a dinner or party afterward where meal tickets are involved, I
> buy tickets for the crew expected on board usually at least 6. The boat is
> available for them
> to sleep on if the regatta is a 2 day affair, although if feasible I
> often pay for a motel room so that some of the crew and I get to crash off
> the boat. 6-8 men sleeping on a
> 36 footer is a little crowded, even though she is air-conditioned.
>
> I have crew that have been with me since they first came on the boat in
> 2004 and others that have joined over the years so that I now have a core
> crew of about
> 8, the most recent of which has been with me for over 1 year. I have not
> yet lost a good crew to another boat and several of the current crew knew
> nothing about sailing or racing when they joined.
> For the top crew, I provide associate memberships in our local, paper only
> racing clubs both to keep them up to date on club activities and to support
> the clubs at $25 per yearly membership.
>
> My crew chief (now in his 9th year on board) is responsible for the email
> crew calls, assigning duties on board and arranging for delivery crew,
> including himself pretty often. He knows the operation of the boat almost
> at my level and has delivered it with crew (without me on board) several
> times.
>
> I am always willing to have new crew on board and if they 'click' with me
> and the other crew, they get invited back. If not, and there have been a
> few of them, they are not asked back.
> The only ones not asked back in recent memory is one who thought he knew
> more about big boat racing than he did and another who was entirely too
> casual about it all. Both were competent sailors, however.
>
> Crew are totally responsible for all sail handling, including folding,
> rolling, removing, stowing, and reattaching, etc. as well as all line
> handling when I take her into the slip in reverse.
> Before and after racing, they get a chance to steer her both under sail
> and while motoring.
>
> Since I will be out of racing for the next 2 weekends for class reunions,
> the crew will race her without me in a ~ 20 mile distance race this
> Saturday and then in a 2 day regatta the following weekend for which I
> bought the crew dinner tickets.
>
> IMHO, I treat them as team mates who allow me to pursue my racing passion.
> Without competent crew, I could not race my 36 footer at all.
>
> This is not to say that they don't take a fair amount of abuse
> occasionally when there are the inevitable foul-ups during racing, nor are
> they bashful about giving the skipper some abuse when I lose concentration
> at the helm or put my skipper/boat owner nose into something that I don't
> need to while at the helm.
>
> We strive to win within our club racing circuit but most importantly we
> have fun. The above philosophy has worked for me since 2004 (when I got a
> new set of racing sails and decided to get 'serious' about my club racing)
> and we have slowly but steadily moved up in the standings as the
> boat, its handling and the skipper and crew have climbed the learning curve
> while having a great time. YMMV.
>
>
>
> Charlie Nelson
> Skipper
> Water Phantom
> C&C 36 XL/kcb
>
>
> cenel...@aol.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeffrey Nelson <nelson2...@eastlink.ca>
> To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Sent: Wed, Jul 25, 2012 11:35 am
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Who pays for the food and beer?
>
> As* crew:*
> I bring beer for skipper and crew.  Lunch we usually fend for ourselves.
> Other crew bring snacks and rhum as required.
> Skipper brings boat, wisdom (usually) and a wack load of spare parts.
> I find it a great boat to race on, and don't expect anything more than
> everyone's best efforts.
>
> As *Skipper*:
> I usually fill in the blanks on bringing beer and/or Rhum depending on
> ships stores.
> I don't think I've ever brought snacks, but I have brought a BBQ once for
> after race raft up.
> Crew usually brings beer/rhum and ice and other necessities of life.
> I haven't heard any complaints and the core team has been together since
> I've moved to Nova Scotia
> two years ago.
>
> Cheers,
>    Jeff Nelson
>    Muir Caileag
>    C&C 30
> On 07/24/12, *Oban Lambie *<oban.lam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I've always provided snacks, water, sandwiches and beer for my Tuesday
> nite racing crew. My wife just realized this and says I'm too generous
> - implying that the crew should bring their own.
>
> Sounds cheap and wrong to me as I'm grateful that the crew comes along
> but wanted to know what you other racers do?
>
> Thanks,
>
> - Oban
>
> Circe
> C&C 29-1
>
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