Yeh the EZ G2 was overkill, but I liked the look of them!
The cars were machined to fit my track too, at no cost.
sam :-)

On 2012-10-05, at 7:00 PM, "Rick Brass" <rickbr...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> I have the Garhauer system on both my 25 and my 38. I likes the system on the 
> 38 so much I added tracks and cars to the 25 as well. I noticed the post from 
> Sam saying he put the EZ G2 system on his 26, which is what Garhauer 
> recommended for my 38. They indicated the EZ G1 for my 25 based on sheet 
> loading calculations. Call Guido at Garhauer and he can tell you what to buy 
> and how much it will cost.
>  
>  
> Rick Brass
> Washington, NC
>  
>  
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Indigo
> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 8:42 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Converting Pin-stop Genoa Cars to adjustable
>  
> Rick, 
> I was making an assumption that the prices on the Garhauer site were "per" 
> and doubling up! I should have called them. Much more affordable!  Thanks for 
> clarifying that!
>  
> Jonathan
> 
> --
> Jonathan
> Trade Show Services
> Cell: (203) 395 0225
> www.tradeshowservicesusa.com
> 
> On Oct 5, 2012, at 20:31, "Rick Brass" <rickbr...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> Dennis is correct, go for a quality system. I presume your pin stop cars for 
> Merriman track are like the ones that came on my boat. Regardless of the size 
> of the split rings, you would never be able to adjust non-bearing cars under 
> load and that is pretty much the whole idea of of converting to line 
> adjustable cars.
>  
> I don’t quite understand why you say the Garhauer cars will cost about $800. 
> The price for the EZ G2-UB system (with the stand-up swivel block) in my 
> latest Garhauer price list is $302. (That is what I have on my 38, BTW, and 
> it works great.) If you want overkill and go to the EZ G3 heavy duty cars 
> (with a non=swivel block that will accommodate two sheets for sail changes), 
> the list price is $363. That is two cars, two control line blocks, for both 
> port and starboard. Adding the swivel cam cleats to put the control lines at 
> the end of the track would add $100, or you could lead the control lines to a 
> cam cleat on each cockpit combing. If I had it to do over, I’d put a cleat on 
> the combing instead of getting the swivel cleats, which are sort of in 
> inconveniently positioned outside of the primary winches on my 38.
>  
> When I bought my cars a few years ago, Guido machined the cars to fit my 
> Merriman H track at no cost. Guido said they used to do it a lot, but I bet 
> it is less common these days.
>  
> I’ve crewed on boats with both Lewmar and Harken systems, and I would rate 
> the Garhauers I have to be as good as the Harken and better than the Lewmars 
> I have had experience with. They are not as pretty as the Harkens, and 
> perhaps they weigh a few ounces more, but the Garhauer system is bulletproof 
> and moves effortlessly under load – which is what really matters to me.
>  
>  
> Rick Brass
> Imzadi -1976 C&C 38 mk1
> la Belle Aurore -1975 C&C 25 mk1
> Washington, NC
>  
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>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Indigo
> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 5:49 PM
> To: 'Dennis C.'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Converting Pin-stop Genoa Cars to adjustable
>  
> Wise advice. Thank you  Part of my problem is that I cannot find strong 
> stainless split rings that will go through the holes of my pins in the cars 
> to allow them to be adjusted easily. So if I could find a source for the 
> correct size and strength split rings I could put off on investing in the 
> adjustable cars for a year or so!
>  
> Jonathan
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C.
> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 5:19 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Converting Pin-stop Genoa Cars to adjustable
>  
> Jonathan,
>  
> One of the dangers of asking for info/advice/opinions on this list is you may 
> get a response you don't want to hear. 
>  
> Whenever I don't go first rate and buy a premium system, I end up being 
> dissatisfied and wishing I'd spent the extra $$.
>  
> My opinion, buy a whole adjustable ball bearing genoa car system including 
> track.  New tracks won't cost but a fraction of the whole system.  The newer 
> systems don't use T-track.  T-tracks don't handle the loads as well as the 
> newer tracks.
>  
> Years ago, I bought the Lewmar Ocean 1 genoa car system because I was trying 
> to save a few $$$.  I bought the pin stop cars.  Then I decided I wanted the 
> adjustable cars so I upgraded.  Lewmar's adjustable cars didn't move well 
> under load even though they were ball bearing cars.  So....when Lewmar 
> brought out some "new, improved" ball bearing cars I upgraded....again.  
> They're much better but still don't move like Harken cars.  Overall, I've 
> probably spent more than the Harken system.  :(
>  
> So....try to save $$$ and fall short of being satisfied OR open the wallet 
> and get a system that works really well and brings you joy.  Your choice.  
> Your needs and budget may be different than mine.
>  
> If I had it to over, I'd open the wallet and buy the Harken system even if I 
> had to wait another year or two.
>  
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>  
> From: Indigo <ind...@thethomsons.us>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 3:42 PM
> Subject: Stus-List Converting Pin-stop Genoa Cars to adjustable
>  
> I was wondering if anyone had found a way to convert the Merriman genoa cars 
> on the C&C 35MK III (or similar) so they are fully adjustable. I believe the 
> track is 1 ¼ inch “T” track.  I have looked at Garhauer’s EZ Glide, and that 
> is a possibility, but a little pricey – looks like the set up I would need 
> will come in at close to $800 before control lines.  I wonder if there are 
> alternatives – particularly ones that do not involve replacing the track!
>  
> Jonathan
> Indigo – 35Mk III – on the hard in Milford CT
>  
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