Yeh the EZ G2 was overkill, but I liked the look of them! The cars were machined to fit my track too, at no cost. sam :-)
On 2012-10-05, at 7:00 PM, "Rick Brass" <rickbr...@earthlink.net> wrote: > I have the Garhauer system on both my 25 and my 38. I likes the system on the > 38 so much I added tracks and cars to the 25 as well. I noticed the post from > Sam saying he put the EZ G2 system on his 26, which is what Garhauer > recommended for my 38. They indicated the EZ G1 for my 25 based on sheet > loading calculations. Call Guido at Garhauer and he can tell you what to buy > and how much it will cost. > > > Rick Brass > Washington, NC > > > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Indigo > Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 8:42 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Converting Pin-stop Genoa Cars to adjustable > > Rick, > I was making an assumption that the prices on the Garhauer site were "per" > and doubling up! I should have called them. Much more affordable! Thanks for > clarifying that! > > Jonathan > > -- > Jonathan > Trade Show Services > Cell: (203) 395 0225 > www.tradeshowservicesusa.com > > On Oct 5, 2012, at 20:31, "Rick Brass" <rickbr...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > Dennis is correct, go for a quality system. I presume your pin stop cars for > Merriman track are like the ones that came on my boat. Regardless of the size > of the split rings, you would never be able to adjust non-bearing cars under > load and that is pretty much the whole idea of of converting to line > adjustable cars. > > I don’t quite understand why you say the Garhauer cars will cost about $800. > The price for the EZ G2-UB system (with the stand-up swivel block) in my > latest Garhauer price list is $302. (That is what I have on my 38, BTW, and > it works great.) If you want overkill and go to the EZ G3 heavy duty cars > (with a non=swivel block that will accommodate two sheets for sail changes), > the list price is $363. That is two cars, two control line blocks, for both > port and starboard. Adding the swivel cam cleats to put the control lines at > the end of the track would add $100, or you could lead the control lines to a > cam cleat on each cockpit combing. If I had it to do over, I’d put a cleat on > the combing instead of getting the swivel cleats, which are sort of in > inconveniently positioned outside of the primary winches on my 38. > > When I bought my cars a few years ago, Guido machined the cars to fit my > Merriman H track at no cost. Guido said they used to do it a lot, but I bet > it is less common these days. > > I’ve crewed on boats with both Lewmar and Harken systems, and I would rate > the Garhauers I have to be as good as the Harken and better than the Lewmars > I have had experience with. They are not as pretty as the Harkens, and > perhaps they weigh a few ounces more, but the Garhauer system is bulletproof > and moves effortlessly under load – which is what really matters to me. > > > Rick Brass > Imzadi -1976 C&C 38 mk1 > la Belle Aurore -1975 C&C 25 mk1 > Washington, NC > > > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Indigo > Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 5:49 PM > To: 'Dennis C.'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Converting Pin-stop Genoa Cars to adjustable > > Wise advice. Thank you Part of my problem is that I cannot find strong > stainless split rings that will go through the holes of my pins in the cars > to allow them to be adjusted easily. So if I could find a source for the > correct size and strength split rings I could put off on investing in the > adjustable cars for a year or so! > > Jonathan > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. > Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 5:19 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Converting Pin-stop Genoa Cars to adjustable > > Jonathan, > > One of the dangers of asking for info/advice/opinions on this list is you may > get a response you don't want to hear. > > Whenever I don't go first rate and buy a premium system, I end up being > dissatisfied and wishing I'd spent the extra $$. > > My opinion, buy a whole adjustable ball bearing genoa car system including > track. New tracks won't cost but a fraction of the whole system. The newer > systems don't use T-track. T-tracks don't handle the loads as well as the > newer tracks. > > Years ago, I bought the Lewmar Ocean 1 genoa car system because I was trying > to save a few $$$. I bought the pin stop cars. Then I decided I wanted the > adjustable cars so I upgraded. Lewmar's adjustable cars didn't move well > under load even though they were ball bearing cars. So....when Lewmar > brought out some "new, improved" ball bearing cars I upgraded....again. > They're much better but still don't move like Harken cars. Overall, I've > probably spent more than the Harken system. :( > > So....try to save $$$ and fall short of being satisfied OR open the wallet > and get a system that works really well and brings you joy. Your choice. > Your needs and budget may be different than mine. > > If I had it to over, I'd open the wallet and buy the Harken system even if I > had to wait another year or two. > > Dennis C. > Touche' 35-1 #83 > Mandeville, LA > > From: Indigo <ind...@thethomsons.us> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 3:42 PM > Subject: Stus-List Converting Pin-stop Genoa Cars to adjustable > > I was wondering if anyone had found a way to convert the Merriman genoa cars > on the C&C 35MK III (or similar) so they are fully adjustable. I believe the > track is 1 ¼ inch “T” track. I have looked at Garhauer’s EZ Glide, and that > is a possibility, but a little pricey – looks like the set up I would need > will come in at close to $800 before control lines. I wonder if there are > alternatives – particularly ones that do not involve replacing the track! > > Jonathan > Indigo – 35Mk III – on the hard in Milford CT > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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