The 50' seas were spectacular! Brilliant sunshine and the big seas made like being in the mountains. Mind you, it's something I never want to experience again! Andy
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Della Barba, Joe <[email protected]>wrote: > Huge steep confused seas that could roll the boat, when you're in the Gulf > Stream, etc………..**** > > ** ** > > That was us. Say 15 foot waves from one direction on top of 10 foot swells > from another. You got kind of random combinations of > little-medium-medium-big-breaker that hit the spreaders on the way down.** > ** > > If I were shorthanded I think we would have towed some stuff to slow us > down and turned off the wind for New York or Newport.**** > > ** ** > > *Joe Della Barba* > > *Coquina C&C 35 MK I* > > * * > > *Btw – 50 foot seas? OUCH!!!!!!!* > > ** ** > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Andrew > Burton > *Sent:* Monday, November 12, 2012 10:55 AM > > *To:* [email protected]; [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Heaving-to**** > > ** ** > > Yeah...there are times when heaving to is the wrong answer; Huge steep > confused seas that could roll the boat, when you're in the Gulf Stream, > etc. In that case I would trail warps or a drogue and run under bare poles > with someone steering. Did that for a couple of days once in the same area > on an older yawl with the breeze gusting to 90 and 50-foot seas. We had to > literally lash ourselves to the mizzen while driving so the waves pooping > the boat would wash us away from the wheel. I figure Hornblower would have > done the same thing! > Andy**** > > On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Joe Della Barba <[email protected]> > wrote:**** > > That is kind of what I meant - maybe I worded it wrong.**** > > When we had 50 knots coming home from Bermuda, we had 5 on board and > decided to push for top speed. We got about 170 miles the first non-to-noon > and 180 the next.**** > > Heaving-to would have been a nice way to get some rest if needed, but we > could survive either way. I think a true "survival storm" would be too much > for my fin-keel boat to heave to in.**** > > YMMV and all................**** > > **** > > Joe Della Barba**** > > [email protected]**** > > **** > > ** ** > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Andrew Burton [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* Monday, November 12, 2012 10:07 AM > *To:* [email protected]; [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Heaving-to**** > > Joe, heaving to is very much in use as a storm/survival tactic. I've more > than once sat out 50-knot winds halfway between Bermuda and New England > while hove to. The contrast between trying to make way in that stuff and > sitting under the dodger with a cup of tea while hove to is remarkable. And > it gives you time to enjoy some alpine scenery, too! > > Andrew Burton > > Newport, RI > > http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/**** > > On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Joe Della Barba <[email protected]> > wrote:**** > > My boat heaves to quite well under main and jib. All I have to do is tack, > not release the jib sheet, let the sail back on the new tack, and then turn > the boat hard to windward. > It is quite useful to "park" for a bit, but not much used anymore as a > storm > survival tactic. If you can still do that, you can likely sail someplace > too. > > > Joe Della Barba > [email protected] > Coquina C&C 35 MK I > > -----Original Message----- > From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Colin > Kilgour > Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 4:04 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Stus-List Heaving-to > > I agree with Dwight. You should be able to heave to with any headsail, > because conditions may require it. > > That said, I prefer not to have my headsail backing against the spreaders, > so I prefer rolling up to no more than a 110 or so before heaving to. > > Cheers > Colin > > > On 11/10/12, Marek Fluder <[email protected]> wrote: > > On my 24 I need to reduce the headsail to a handkerchief. > > Otherwise main and tiller are not able to keep it balanced. > > I think it's because my boat is not heavy and freeboard helps pushing > > the bow down. > > > > Marek Fluder > > C&C24 "Emilie" > > Hamilton Harbour, ON > > > > > > > > On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Mark G <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > >> After 6 years of experimenting on an infrequent basis I was finally > >> able to easily and repeatedly heave-to my 25 Mk1 this year. I sail > >> with a 135-140% Genoa on a furler. On the day everything clicked it > >> was furled to about 100-110%. Since then, I have made furling the > >> Genoa to 100-110% the first step of heaving-to. It makes sense to me > >> that, since heaving-to is all about balancing the sails, sail area > >> forward would be a significant factor. But on a boat without a > >> furler this can't be accomplished without a sail change, etc. So I'm > >> thinking the same thing might be accomplished by positioning the main > >> sail with the sheet or the traveler. Can anybody weigh in on their > >> experience, particularly with the 25 Mk1? > >> > >> Mark > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com [email protected] > >> > >> > > > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > [email protected] > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > [email protected]**** > > > > > -- > > phone +401 965 5260**** > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > [email protected]**** > > > > > -- > Andrew Burton > 61 W Narragansett Ave > Newport, RI > USA 02840 > http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ > phone +401 965 5260**** > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > [email protected] > > -- Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Ave Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ phone +401 965 5260
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