Thanks Michael,

Appreciate your feedback.  Actually this particular boat that we are looking 
into had a backstay attachment failure at some point (not catastrophic) as the 
starboard backstay chain plate attachment point has been repaired....

Good to hear that despite the issues you appreciate the sailing qualities of 
the model.

Do you know the source of the water that pooled under the floorboards?

Thanks again.

Jorge

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From: Michael Cotton <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Looking for 37/40 +, R and XL owners

I owned a '90 37+. The survey found extensive blisters on the bottom. The boat 
was in the Chesapeake from new until my purchase in '08. 5/16 was peeled off 
the bottom and a new epoxy/vinylester was put on. Water would pool in various 
place under the floorboards instead of draining into the bilge low point. The 
most serious problem I encountered was the port backstay chainplate's failure. 
It did not pull all the way through but almost.  We were in choppy seas, 20 to 
25kts of wind with a reefed main, 135 headsail and 1200 psi on the backstay 
when the failure occurred.  The surveyor had warned me about this weakness. At 
the time of the survey he said they were fine. The design or quality control of 
the backstay chainplate is pitiful. On the plus side the boat sailed 
beautifully. My previous boat was a Beneteau First 405. I lost it to a fire. 
Given a choice I would not buy the C&C again. I would buy the Beneteau.

Michael Cotton
ex partner C&C 37+
S/V Blue Pearl


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From: "Gomez, Jorge K" <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 11:59 AM
Subject: Stus-List Looking for 37/40 +, R and XL owners

Hello C&Cers,

My wife and I are seriously considering a C&C 37/40 XL with a 8ft fin keel for 
upcoming double handed cruising and full crewed racing in the Caribbean 
(primarily windward and leeward islands)

>From our impressions after a boat visit and short test sail the boat seems to 
>fit the bill however, as part of the pre-offer due diligence and research we 
>would like to chat with current and past owners of these fine boats to gather 
>insight and learn from their experience.  We want to hear it all, the good the 
>bad and the ugly.

If you can spare a few minutes, we would be most grateful.  Please send me a 
private message and I will be happy to either call you or exchange emails.

Our biggest questions/concerns in our mind are around:
-Cockpit comfort for long passages/crossings
-Aft cabin ventilation at anchor in hot climates
-How to properly survey the boat given balsa core and Kevlar mix...heard lots 
of different opinions here and it is our major concern at the moment.
-Hull to deck joint, any issues here after 20+ years?
-Sailing behavior in chop going to weather (wet/dry/pounding/hobby horsing)
-How does it behave once you load the bow with a 45lb anchor, a windlass and 
the 140ft of chain that we will need to cruise in the Caribbean (200lbs+)
-Behavior downwind under a full kite in 15 to 25 knots and a following sea.
-Would it sail to its rating in typical Caribbean conditions of average 12 to 
25 knots and moderate chop? (yes, we will junk the big anchor and chain for 
racing...)  Our competition in the Caribbean will be a mixed fleet of J35, J95, 
J105, J109, Dufour 40, Bene 36.7 and 40.7, Sigma 41, Elan 37, etc and we may 
rate with a 135% as our largest headsail...looking for advise here...
-Your experience

Since the hull is the same for all the versions (+, R and XL) we would like to 
hear from owners of all models..racers and cruisers.

Grateful in advance for your time and advise,

Jorge

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