How about having a peek at my LF 38 just to get another picture? Rich Knowles Indigo. LF 38 Halifax NS
On 2013-08-01, at 20:27, "Dr. Mark Bodnar" <drbod...@accesswave.ca> wrote: > > Thanks for all the comments. > > Danny - Yes - I'm aware the "good condition" sails and the "year or 2" left > in the canvas are pointing at need for replacement before long. Guy selling > the boat seems pretty straight, so I don't think he's over valuing the sails > and they are totally shot. > As for the Nada value and the price - it is my understanding the NADA value > is US based, boats locally list for a lot more than that. Not much I can do > other than buy a boat in the US and ship/sail it back. As Mike noted - the > cost of that adds up quickly. Rough quote to ship a 30 back from NY was over > $6000 by land. I could have it sailed back for $2000, but I'd still have the > expense of going down to look and having to pay for required repairs at a > unfamiliar yard before it could sail home. > > Bob's example of a good condition 29 for $13500 - plus the cradle ends up > being ~$15500. Then add the cost of getting it home (either I take a week off > work or I pay to have it sailed back) - total $17-18000. He likely has > better sails but the price is pretty close in the end. > > In this case the boat has a pretty good trailer - value of ~ $2000, saving me > the cost of buying a cradle. Another 29-2 for sale locally is listed at > $26000 with racing sails. 30's listed for $22-30000 (at the cheaper end they > are in rough shape, needing new sails and deck work). > > Having looked at this boat I think I'd be happy to get it for $17000 - but I > doubt he'll sell it for that. Maybe I'm off in my value because all the boat > prices are listed so high and the actual selling prices are much lower. > > Stevan - I had my eye on a nice 32 - but it sold (apparently in brilliant > shape and sold for ~$30000). I'd consider anything from a 29 to a 33. Still > trying to keep costs down (total purchase and up-keep) while finding a boat > big enough to enjoy with the kids. 29 is the smallest I think that could > work. When I was on a 33 2weeks ago it seemed huge inside, yet not much more > useable space. > > In the end my local options are limited and the prices are higher than areas > with a lot more population. I could buy cheaper but most seem to need more > work. I could travel, but that adds costs. For a good looking boat that > fits my needs and my eye, I'll pay a bit extra for ease of getting it local, > but don't want to get fleeced. Hopefully I can convince him that my price is > fair, but I expect he'll think I'm low-balling. > > Thanks for the advice > Mark > > > --------------------- > Dr. Mark Bodnar > B.Sc., D.C., FCCOPR(C) > Bedford Chiropractic > www.bedfordchiro.ca > --------------------- > > There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval. > - George Santayana > > On 01/08/2013 9:48 AM, Hoyt, Mike wrote: >> It will cost a lot more than 4000 to get the LIS boat to canada. Cradle >> alone is 1500. You will have to ship the 29 by road and that will be >> pricey. The local boat is a serious bargain compared to the US one. >> This is more true if the trailer is road worthy and not junk >> >> Mike >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dr. >> Mark Bodnar >> Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 10:30 PM >> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> Subject: Stus-List Another boat >> >> >> Seriously looking at another boat. Checked out a local C&C 29 mkII on >> Sunday. >> >> http://novascotia.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-boats-watercraft-sailboats-C >> -C-29-MK-II-W0QQAdIdZ474384947 >> >> Overall the boat looked good. The paint job on the hull was rough >> (needs a good sanding and new bottom coat). >> >> The boat is on a trailer - which makes it easier to move the 90 min >> drive home, and the trailer allows for easier yard management (assuming >> the hoist can get the boat high enough to put it to bed). >> He reports the sails in "good shape" (but no spinnaker), engine >> supposedly runs well (not in water to test), hull looks good with no >> dimples or dings (although there is some minor damage at the stern where >> >> someone likely backed into a slip too hard), teak and holly sole is a >> bit rough (no mold but finish is beat up), dodger and sail cover >> reported to "have a year or 2 left in them", cushions ok (few years left >> >> in fabric) >> >> The seller is asking $22500. Maybe offer $17000-18000 firm? >> >> (I have had a few emails with a new list member, Bob Dryer, looking to >> sell a C&C 29 II in Long Island sound for $14500 --- but that's a long >> way away, hard to look at the boat plus the cost of getting it back and >> the fact that I'd have to buy a cradle - all together, if I can get a >> local boat for $4000 the price is pretty even) >> >> NADA average value of a 1983 C&C 29 II is $13000 >> ----------------- >> Also - Thinking of looking at a Cal 9.2, 1982, listed at $20000 >> http://halifax.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-boats-watercraft-sailboats-Cal- >> 9-2-Sailboat-Price-Reduced-W0QQAdIdZ493465591 >> (NADA value at $13800) >> Plus another Cal 9.2 listed at $15K (but no pictures). >> >> Any thoughts? I'm not familiar with the Cal boats. Reading online the >> comments are that the Cal is more tender and that the diesel is raw >> water cooled (which can lead to more issues as they age). Overall online >> >> comments are not positive - seems the design may play to the worst parts >> >> of the IOR rules. Also some negative comments about decks etc. >> >> I don't want a poorly behaved boat that I can't manage in gusty winds or >> >> something that will ruin sailing for the kids --- maybe I'm answering my >> >> own thoughts on the Cal? Can't say I like the way the pinched rear end >> looks either! >> >> Any thoughts appreciated, >> Mark > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
