Be warned - C&C used iron collars, at least in 1973. I replaced mine with a stainless collar and a backup in the cockpit where the rudder post pokes through for the tiller. The iron was at least 2/3s wasted away after about 38 years.
Joe Della Barba Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rick Brass Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 12:52 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder removal Josh; I understand from discussion and photos on the list that the later model C&Cs had bearings and bushings of one variety or the other, but the 70s vintage boats seem to have a simpler system as Danny in Lolita reported a couple of hours ago. His has a fiberglass tube that the rudder stock goes through, with a pin and thrust washers to hold the rudder up. My 38 has a fiberglass tube for the rudder stock, with a clamp around the stock at the top of the tube to keep the rudder from falling out. No bearings, but a grease fitting or grease cup to force grease into the small clearance between ID of tube and OD of rudder; there has been frequent discussion on the list over the years about changing out the grease cup in favor of a zerk fitting or long hose with zerk to facilitate greasing and what grease works best. I'd suggest that Jason follow Gary's suggestion and post a picture of his arrangement. That way we can all see what he has and make our comments about his system. Having replaced my rudder, and helped with another one, I might have some tips for him. Rick Brass Washington, NC From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Muckley Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 11:36 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder removal About the bearings: most of our boats have acetal bushings top and bottom in the fiberglass tube. When the rudder is out you can grease it up and/or drill holes for grease fittings. With the fittings you can lube it without removing the rudder. After removing the steering quadrant there should just be a single bolt with rollers on both ends. Pull that and the rudder will fall out. I had to work with the boat yard to do it while on the lift. You will probably find an acetal ring on the stock where it exits the rudder. This is a spacer and thrust washer to prevent the rudder from thumping up and down. If you find that your bushings are worn beyond your comfort, there is an epoxy product that you can inject between the stock/shaft and bearings to "rebuild" them. I think West Marine sells it. I say as long as you don't feel any lateral slop then you should be fine. Grease it up annually and be done with it. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Jan 26, 2014 8:30 PM, "Jason Shoemake" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I have a question for the vast knowledge found here. My recently acquired '78 29 MK1 is on the hard with bottom, now clean as a baby's booty, ready for paint. There's a rust looking substance on and around the rudder. Where could this be coming from? Is it possible to remove the rudder and replace bearings, bushings and the like? Where can I find replacement parts? Any advice, or help - I can have an endless supply of beer - will be appreciated. Thanks, Jason Shoemake 1978 C&C 29 MK1 South Mississippi Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
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