Hello all,
Does anyone know where a replacement forward hatch for a C&C 30 MK1 can be
located? I've searched and there are lots of them out all requiring
additional cutting which I prefer not to do. Or, does anyone know where the
gasket material can be located for the original hatch? The hatch measures 19
1/2" X 19 1/2 inside and 23 X 23 outside.
Thanks

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   3.  redundant items (Jimmy Kelly)
   4.  storing handheld gps ..radios etc. (Jimmy Kelly)
   5. Re:  Setting GPS Waypoints (Michael Brown)
   6. Re:  storing handheld gps ..radios etc. (Jim Watts)
   7. Re:  storing handheld gps ..radios etc. (Rich Knowles)
   8. Re:  Electronics - was Re: Setting GPS Waypoints (Brad Crawford)
   9. Re:  Setting GPS Waypoints -> Seatalk (Russ & Melody)
  10. Re:  Electronics - was Re: Setting GPS Waypoints (Prime Interest)
  11. Re:  Electronics - was Re: Setting GPS Waypoints (Martin DeYoung)
  12. Re:  Electronics - was Re: Setting GPS Waypoints (Joel Aronson)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 15:59:22 -0800 (PST)
From: "Dennis C." <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Redundant instrumentation / tools
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http://www.amazon.com/Antistatic-Bags-Resealable-6X10-Pack/dp/B000BSN274


Dennis C.


>________________________________
> From: Jim Watts <[email protected]>
>To: 1 CnC List <[email protected]>
>Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2014 5:43 PM
>Subject: Re: Stus-List Redundant instrumentation / tools
> 
>
>
>On our latest cruise, we put the portable GPS and one of the VHF handhelds
into the oven whenever there was any electrical activity. Better chance than
zero. 
>
>
>
>Jim Watts
>Paradigm Shift
>C&C 35 Mk III
>Victoria, BC
>
>
>
>On 16 January 2014 14:24, Andrew Burton <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>I own a nice 1954 Plath sextant that I used to make my living for a couple
of decades. The novelty has kind of warn off. Remember, it's not just the
sextant, but at least two volumes of HO 249 plus the almanac. 
>>That being said, I'd never tell a crewmember there wasn't room for their
sextant aboard any boat I was on.
>>
>>Andy
>>C&C 40
>>Peregrine
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Don Newman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>The odds are slim but you could loose all electronics including that
transistor radio from a close lightning strike and a plastic sextant is
cheap and light.
>>>
>>>Working on computers since 1965 has destroyed any faith I have in any
electronic device working when I really need it.
>>>
>>>I am sure you will always find a safe harbour but we need to encourage
everyone to plan ahead and understand the basic tools first.
>>>
>>>Fair winds and calm seas.
>>>
>>>
>>>Don Newman
>>>C&C 44
>>>
>>>
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> True, Don. and depending on how far away I am, I to doubt I'd find
Bermuda, so on to my destination...unless I had a portable radio I could
make use as a makeshift RDF, or was within 50 miles and could get Bermuda
Radio to give me a bearing on my VHF signal.
>>>>
>>>> Given all the crap I have to pack on these trips, not having to take a
sextant along--and get it through security without some bozo TSA agent
picking it up by the arm and then getting it in the overhead bin without it
being banged around, etc.--saves a lot of trouble.
>>>>
>>>> ?I can use a hand-bearing compass to tell whether someone's gaining 
>>>> or losing
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album 
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>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>Andrew Burton
>>61 W Narragansett Ave
>>Newport, RI
>>USA 02840
>>http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>>phone? +401 965 5260
>>_______________________________________________
>>This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album 
>>http://www.cncphotoalbum.com [email protected]
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 16:08:19 -0800
From: Russ & Melody <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
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Couldn't you have the SR tables & almanac on a PDA, mini-computer or phone
:)

         Cheers, Russ
         Sweet 35 mk-1

At 02:24 PM 16/01/2014, you wrote:
>I own a nice 1954 Plath sextant that I used to make my living for a 
>couple of decades. The novelty has kind of warn off. Remember, it's 
>not just the sextant, but at least two volumes of HO 249 plus the almanac.
>That being said, I'd never tell a crewmember there wasn't room for 
>their sextant aboard any boat I was on.
>
>Andy
>C&C 40
>Peregrine
>
>
>On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Don Newman 
><<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:
>The odds are slim but you could loose all electronics including that 
>transistor radio from a close lightning strike and a plastic sextant 
>is cheap and light.
>
>Working on computers since 1965 has destroyed any faith I have in 
>any electronic device working when I really need it.
>
>I am sure you will always find a safe harbour but we need to 
>encourage everyone to plan ahead and understand the basic tools first.
>
>Fair winds and calm seas.
>
>
>Don Newman
>C&C 44
>
> > <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > True, Don. and depending on how far away I am, I to doubt I'd 
> find Bermuda, so on to my destination...unless I had a portable 
> radio I could make use as a makeshift RDF, or was within 50 miles 
> and could get Bermuda Radio to give me a bearing on my VHF signal.
> >
> > Given all the crap I have to pack on these trips, not having to 
> take a sextant along--and get it through security without some bozo 
> TSA agent picking it up by the arm and then getting it in the 
> overhead bin without it being banged around, etc.--saves a lot of trouble.
> >
> >  I can use a hand-bearing compass to tell whether someone's 
> gaining or losing
> >
> >
>
>_______________________________________________
>This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album
><http://www.cncphotoalbum.com>http://www.cncphotoalbum.com
><mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
>
>
>
>
>--
>Andrew Burton
>61 W Narragansett Ave
>Newport, RI
>USA 02840
><http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/>http://sites.googl
e.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 16:30:29 -0800
From: Jimmy Kelly <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Stus-List redundant items
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it has been mentioned use of portable transistor radio to find bermuda from
mainland coast USA....back in late 70s ..80s many skippers going to
windward islands went by way of bermuda...turned right near bermuda
..sailed directly south about 900 nm then sse to islands...we had b&g rdf
and sailed the null to bermuda more than a few times on deliveries...simple
& always reliable..especially if had couple cheap transistor
radios...really quite simple.....never used autopilots  to much electric
draw   ...loran  c  was degraded as travelled south....nice to have gps
today to back up your  estimated position...we actually sailed to
bermuda...where today seem to meet a lot of sailboats  motoring to
destinations..just a note that really ,      alot has not changed  when
sailing long distance atlantic offshore  just more gadgets from west marine
to buy ...bigger fuel tanks..etc....
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 16:42:02 -0800
From: Jimmy Kelly <[email protected]>
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Subject: Stus-List storing handheld gps ..radios etc.
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have not heard of oven storage before..would like to hear more...i was hit
by lightning   a number years a go  ...only electrics not totally fried was
 spare  b&g  rdf...was not trailing ground  from shrouds  as was   & is
still  a habit  thanks.
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 19:55:14 -0500
From: Michael Brown <[email protected]>
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Short answer is yes.

A bit more detail...? The ST4000 works OK until the amplitude of
waves gives us a "corkscrew" path upwind. I played with various
setting, like damping, and added a rudder sensor. The ST4000
would steer but get out of cadence with the waves, then over or
under correct. Not a big problem well off the wind or cruising,
but I mainly race. Under spinnaker with a quartering sea I would
be concerned about an accidental gybe.

The SPX-5 has an easy to adjust response setting. When set to
responsive, upwind in 3' waves, 18 kts TWS it will hold a very tight
course. Could set it for around 32 degrees AWA, think it would
stray maybe +/- 2 degrees. I tried it downwind, hands on the wheel
and ready to dis-engage the wheel drive, under spinnaker in
20 - 24 kts TWS. The SPX-5 kept a steady course even when the
stern started to lift and surf.

The longer answer is that when racing solo under more exciting
conditions the ST4000 was not useful. The SPX-5 does a competent
job and I trust it enough to go forward and change sails.

Michael Brown
Windburn
C&C 30-1

PS: I can post more information about the installation and getting the
Seatalk NG working with ST50 instruments on Seatalk 1 if anyone is
interested.




Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 14:52:33 -0500 
From: Steve Sharkey <[email protected]> 
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Setting GPS Waypoints 
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Are you seeing significantly better performance from the SPX-5 vs the
ST4000? 
 
Steve Sharkey 
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 16:58:46 -0800
From: Jim Watts <[email protected]>
To: 1 CnC List <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Stus-List storing handheld gps ..radios etc.
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The concept, IIRC, is that the metal oven acts as a Faraday cage when it's
closed and there is no entry point for a sideflash. I'm sure someone will
correct me here.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC


On 16 January 2014 16:42, Jimmy Kelly <[email protected]> wrote:

> have not heard of oven storage before..would like to hear more...i was hit
> by lightning   a number years a go  ...only electrics not totally fried
was
>  spare  b&g  rdf...was not trailing ground  from shrouds  as was   & is
> still  a habit  thanks.
>
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 21:01:24 -0400
From: Rich Knowles <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Stus-List storing handheld gps ..radios etc.
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Spot on. 

Rich

> On Jan 16, 2014, at 20:58, Jim Watts <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> The concept, IIRC, is that the metal oven acts as a Faraday cage when it's
closed and there is no entry point for a sideflash. I'm sure someone will
correct me here. 
> 
> Jim Watts
> Paradigm Shift
> C&C 35 Mk III
> Victoria, BC
> 
> 
>> On 16 January 2014 16:42, Jimmy Kelly <[email protected]> wrote:
>> have not heard of oven storage before..would like to hear more...i was
hit by lightning   a number years a go  ...only electrics not totally fried
was  spare  b&g  rdf...was not trailing ground  from shrouds  as was   & is
still  a habit  thanks.
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album
>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com
>> [email protected]
>> 
> 
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 17:40:26 -0800
From: Brad Crawford <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Electronics - was Re: Setting GPS Waypoints
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Andrew,
I have used my iPad most of the time as a chartplotter also, using
Navionics, we also carry back up paper charts.  So far our long distance
trips have been to the San Juan islands and Gulf Islands of British
Columbia.  Just out of curiosity, how far off shore have you used your iPad
as a navigational tool, and have you always had cell coverage.

Brad
C&C 36
Dora Pearl 
Seattle

Sent from my iPad

> On Jan 16, 2014, at 6:19 AM, Andrew Burton <[email protected]>
wrote:
> 
> Since getting my iPad a couple of years ago, I haven't pulled out a paper
chart once. As you say, It's a great tool.
> I have to admit that my sextant hasn't accompanied me on a passage since
about 2007 or 50,000 miles ago. I carry spare GPSs, but in the back of my
mind always is the possibility that the whole system may go down and then
what do I do? Well, I'm pretty confident of my ability to keep a good DR and
EP, and in my ability to stay out of trouble when approaching a shoreline if
I'm not confident of my position (which is pretty much always).
> 
> The bottom line is, I think that learning piloting--coastal navigation,
etc--is a higher priority than learning to use a sextant. 
> 
> One little trick when approaching a shoreline without a position fix for
some time is to steer to one side of where you want to go. That way when you
see land, you know which way to turn to make your port. So if I want to get
to Charleston, I may aim for Hilton Head and when I see land, or it starts
getting shallow, I know to turn north in order to get to Charleston. If I
aim straight for where I want to go, and miss, I'm not sure which direction
to turn, the land being pretty featureless from offshore. This tip is
courtesy of Chichester from when he was flying his Gypsy Moth biplane.
> 
> Andy
> C&C 40
> Peregrine
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Marek Dziedzic <[email protected]>
wrote:
>> I would say Speed first. It gives you enough that you can navigate
(assuming that you have a compass (and a watch)).
>>  
>> I would drop Stereo from this list (we never have it on; I like the sound
of sailing ? I hope this does not open a can of worms)
>>  
>> I would put a GPS ahead of the autopilot, probably, mainly, because of
the costs associated.
>>  
>> Marek
>>  
>> > In order?
>> > 1 Depth
>> > 2 VHF
>> > 3 Stereo
>> >4 Autopilot
>> > 4 GPS
>> > 5 Plotter
>> > 6 Speed
>> > 7 wind
>> > 8 radar or AIS, depending on area of use; offshore, I'm not sure that
AIS
>> > isn't the more valuable tool
>> > 9 SSB
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album
>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com
>> [email protected]
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Andrew Burton
> 61 W Narragansett Ave
> Newport, RI
> USA 02840
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> phone  +401 965 5260
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 18:16:48 -0800
From: Russ & Melody <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Stus-List Setting GPS Waypoints -> Seatalk
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Hi Michael,

Please post the Seatalk talk info.

I don't need it right now but I save these kinds of posts for when I 
do need it.

         Cheers, Russ
         Sweet 35 mk-1

At 04:55 PM 16/01/2014, you wrote:
>Short answer is yes.
>.....
>
>Michael Brown
>Windburn
>C&C 30-1
>
>PS: I can post more information about the installation and getting the
>Seatalk NG working with ST50 instruments on Seatalk 1 if anyone is
>interested.
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 21:17:23 -0500
From: Prime Interest <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Electronics - was Re: Setting GPS Waypoints
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I've used my iPad for navigation on the Great Lakes using iNavx on an iPad
without a SIM card and thus no cell service. Not sure whether Navionics
requires a cell/internet connection to update chart information but iNax
loads the regional maps so can operate in a unconnected manner.

Although I have location, AIS and boat instruments feeding the navigation
application via a ShipModul Wifi multiplexer the iPads GPS works well enough
by itself.



ed
Prime Interest
1982 C&C Landfall 38
Toronto, Canada


> On Jan 16, 2014, at 8:40 PM, Brad Crawford <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Andrew,
> I have used my iPad most of the time as a chartplotter also, using
Navionics, we also carry back up paper charts.  So far our long distance
trips have been to the San Juan islands and Gulf Islands of British
Columbia.  Just out of curiosity, how far off shore have you used your iPad
as a navigational tool, and have you always had cell coverage.
> 
> Brad
> C&C 36
> Dora Pearl 
> Seattle
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Jan 16, 2014, at 6:19 AM, Andrew Burton <[email protected]>
wrote:
>> 
>> Since getting my iPad a couple of years ago, I haven't pulled out a paper
chart once. As you say, It's a great tool.
>> I have to admit that my sextant hasn't accompanied me on a passage since
about 2007 or 50,000 miles ago. I carry spare GPSs, but in the back of my
mind always is the possibility that the whole system may go down and then
what do I do? Well, I'm pretty confident of my ability to keep a good DR and
EP, and in my ability to stay out of trouble when approaching a shoreline if
I'm not confident of my position (which is pretty much always).
>> 
>> The bottom line is, I think that learning piloting--coastal navigation,
etc--is a higher priority than learning to use a sextant. 
>> 
>> One little trick when approaching a shoreline without a position fix for
some time is to steer to one side of where you want to go. That way when you
see land, you know which way to turn to make your port. So if I want to get
to Charleston, I may aim for Hilton Head and when I see  land, or it starts
getting shallow, I know to turn north in order to get to Charleston. If I
aim straight for where I want to go, and miss, I'm not sure which direction
to turn, the land being pretty featureless from offshore. This tip is
courtesy of Chichester from when he was flying his Gypsy Moth biplane.
>> 
>> Andy
>> C&C 40
>> Peregrine
>> -- 
>> Andrew Burton
>> 61 W Narragansett Ave
>> Newport, RI
>> USA 02840
>> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>> phone  +401 965 5260
>> _______________________________________________
>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album
>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com
>> [email protected]
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 02:21:45 +0000
From: Martin DeYoung <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Electronics - was Re: Setting GPS Waypoints
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>? how far off shore have you used your iPad as a navigational tool, and
have you always had cell coverage.<

A few years back I experienced occasional coverage 5 to 10 miles offshore
from Tofino BC (West Coast, Vancouver Island) to San Diego.  There is little
to no Vancouver Island coverage north of Port Hardy around the top back
south to Tofino.  On the inside of Vancouver Island, north of Campbell River
the coverage can be spotty.  Your mileage will vary on the height of the
cell tower and your carrier?s equipment.

A personal best for cell phone coverage was back in 1993 using a Motorola
?brick? phone.  I was 200 miles west of Cape Flattery and needed to contact
the boat?s owner to discuss delivery of engine parts (+ coffee, bread, and a
French brand of cigarettes) to Neah Bay.  I was firing up the SSB when one
of the crew stated he had the owner on the cell phone.  My guess is the
higher wattage of that era of cell phones allowed the signal to bounce off
the atmosphere and hit an antenna on Vancouver Island.

For the US west coast, some cell coverage can be found when close to shore
mostly near towns but I strongly recommend having a VHF.

As to the iPad or other non-marine nav aids offshore, carry backup nav aids
(paper charts, separate GPS etc.) as the salt water never rests in its
relentless attack on electronics and your power will always quit at the
worst possible time (i.e. not on bright sunny days with the coast in sight).

Martin
Calypso
1971 C&C 43
Seattle
From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brad
Crawford
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2014 5:40 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Stus-List Electronics - was Re: Setting GPS Waypoints

Andrew,
I have used my iPad most of the time as a chartplotter also, using
Navionics, we also carry back up paper charts.  So far our long distance
trips have been to the San Juan islands and Gulf Islands of British
Columbia.  Just out of curiosity, how far off shore have you used your iPad
as a navigational tool, and have you always had cell coverage.

Brad
C&C 36
Dora Pearl
Seattle

Sent from my iPad

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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 21:26:53 -0500
From: Joel Aronson <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Electronics - was Re: Setting GPS Waypoints
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If your IPad has cell capability it will work as a GPS without cell service.

Joel

On Thursday, January 16, 2014, Martin DeYoung <[email protected]>
wrote:

>  >? how far off shore have you used your iPad as a navigational tool, and
> have you always had cell coverage.<
>
>
>
> A few years back I experienced occasional coverage 5 to 10 miles offshore
> from Tofino BC (West Coast, Vancouver Island) to San Diego.  There is
> little to no Vancouver Island coverage north of Port Hardy around the top
> back south to Tofino.  On the inside of Vancouver Island, north of
Campbell
> River the coverage can be spotty.  Your mileage will vary on the height of
> the cell tower and your carrier?s equipment.
>
>
>
> A personal best for cell phone coverage was back in 1993 using a Motorola
> ?brick? phone.  I was 200 miles west of Cape Flattery and needed to
contact
> the boat?s owner to discuss delivery of engine parts (+ coffee, bread, and
> a French brand of cigarettes) to Neah Bay.  I was firing up the SSB when
> one of the crew stated he had the owner on the cell phone.  My guess is
the
> higher wattage of that era of cell phones allowed the signal to bounce off
> the atmosphere and hit an antenna on Vancouver Island.
>
>
>
> For the US west coast, some cell coverage can be found when close to shore
> mostly near towns but I strongly recommend having a VHF.
>
>
>
> As to the iPad or other non-marine nav aids offshore, carry backup nav
> aids (paper charts, separate GPS etc.) as the salt water never rests in
its
> relentless attack on electronics and your power will always quit at the
> worst possible time (i.e. not on bright sunny days with the coast in
sight).
>
>
>
> Martin
>
> Calypso
>
> 1971 C&C 43
>
> Seattle
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:[email protected] <javascript:_e({},
> 'cvml', '[email protected]');>] *On Behalf Of *Brad Crawford
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 16, 2014 5:40 PM
> *To:* [email protected] <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> '[email protected]');>
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Electronics - was Re: Setting GPS Waypoints
>
>
>
> Andrew,
>
> I have used my iPad most of the time as a chartplotter also, using
> Navionics, we also carry back up paper charts.  So far our long distance
> trips have been to the San Juan islands and Gulf Islands of British
> Columbia.  Just out of curiosity, how far off shore have you used your
iPad
> as a navigational tool, and have you always had cell coverage.
>
>
>
> Brad
>
> C&C 36
>
> Dora Pearl
>
> Seattle
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
>
>

-- 
Joel
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