Try Atkins and Hoyle ,they rebuild hatches and will sell you the gasket and the 
glue

DDrake 
73 JH 
C&C 26

> On Feb 10, 2014, at 5:57 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> Does anyone know where a replacement forward hatch for a C&C 30 MK1 can be
> located? I've searched and there are lots of them out all requiring
> additional cutting which I prefer not to do. Or, does anyone know where the
> gasket material can be located for the original hatch? The hatch measures 19
> 1/2" X 19 1/2 inside and 23 X 23 outside.
> Thanks
> 
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>   2. Re:  Redundant instrumentation / tools (Russ & Melody)
>   3.  redundant items (Jimmy Kelly)
>   4.  storing handheld gps ..radios etc. (Jimmy Kelly)
>   5. Re:  Setting GPS Waypoints (Michael Brown)
>   6. Re:  storing handheld gps ..radios etc. (Jim Watts)
>   7. Re:  storing handheld gps ..radios etc. (Rich Knowles)
>   8. Re:  Electronics - was Re: Setting GPS Waypoints (Brad Crawford)
>   9. Re:  Setting GPS Waypoints -> Seatalk (Russ & Melody)
>  10. Re:  Electronics - was Re: Setting GPS Waypoints (Prime Interest)
>  11. Re:  Electronics - was Re: Setting GPS Waypoints (Martin DeYoung)
>  12. Re:  Electronics - was Re: Setting GPS Waypoints (Joel Aronson)
>  13. Re:  Electronics - was Re: Setting GPS Waypoints
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 15:59:22 -0800 (PST)
> From: "Dennis C." <[email protected]>
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Redundant instrumentation / tools
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> http://www.amazon.com/Antistatic-Bags-Resealable-6X10-Pack/dp/B000BSN274
> 
> 
> Dennis C.
> 
> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: Jim Watts <[email protected]>
>> To: 1 CnC List <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2014 5:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Redundant instrumentation / tools
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On our latest cruise, we put the portable GPS and one of the VHF handhelds
> into the oven whenever there was any electrical activity. Better chance than
> zero. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Jim Watts
>> Paradigm Shift
>> C&C 35 Mk III
>> Victoria, BC
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 16 January 2014 14:24, Andrew Burton <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> I own a nice 1954 Plath sextant that I used to make my living for a couple
> of decades. The novelty has kind of warn off. Remember, it's not just the
> sextant, but at least two volumes of HO 249 plus the almanac. 
>>> That being said, I'd never tell a crewmember there wasn't room for their
> sextant aboard any boat I was on.
>>> 
>>> Andy
>>> C&C 40
>>> Peregrine
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Don Newman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The odds are slim but you could loose all electronics including that
> transistor radio from a close lightning strike and a plastic sextant is
> cheap and light.
>>>> 
>>>> Working on computers since 1965 has destroyed any faith I have in any
> electronic device working when I really need it.
>>>> 
>>>> I am sure you will always find a safe harbour but we need to encourage
> everyone to plan ahead and understand the basic tools first.
>>>> 
>>>> Fair winds and calm seas.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Don Newman
>>>> C&C 44
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> True, Don. and depending on how far away I am, I to doubt I'd find
> Bermuda, so on to my destination...unless I had a portable radio I could
> make use as a makeshift RDF, or was within 50 miles and could get Bermuda
> Radio to give me a bearing on my VHF signal.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Given all the crap I have to pack on these trips, not having to take a
> sextant along--and get it through security without some bozo TSA agent
> picking it up by the arm and then getting it in the overhead bin without it
> being banged around, etc.--saves a lot of trouble.
>>>>> 
>>>>> ?I can use a hand-bearing compass to tell whether someone's gaining 
>>>>> or losing
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Andrew Burton
>>> 61 W Narragansett Ave
>>> Newport, RI
>>> USA 02840
>>> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>>> phone? +401 965 5260
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 16:08:19 -0800
> From: Russ & Melody <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Redundant instrumentation / tools
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> 
> Couldn't you have the SR tables & almanac on a PDA, mini-computer or phone
> :)
> 
>         Cheers, Russ
>         Sweet 35 mk-1
> 
> At 02:24 PM 16/01/2014, you wrote:
>> I own a nice 1954 Plath sextant that I used to make my living for a 
>> couple of decades. The novelty has kind of warn off. Remember, it's 
>> not just the sextant, but at least two volumes of HO 249 plus the almanac.
>> That being said, I'd never tell a crewmember there wasn't room for 
>> their sextant aboard any boat I was on.
>> 
>> Andy
>> C&C 40
>> Peregrine
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Don Newman 
>> <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:
>> The odds are slim but you could loose all electronics including that 
>> transistor radio from a close lightning strike and a plastic sextant 
>> is cheap and light.
>> 
>> Working on computers since 1965 has destroyed any faith I have in 
>> any electronic device working when I really need it.
>> 
>> I am sure you will always find a safe harbour but we need to 
>> encourage everyone to plan ahead and understand the basic tools first.
>> 
>> Fair winds and calm seas.
>> 
>> 
>> Don Newman
>> C&C 44
>> 
>>> <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> True, Don. and depending on how far away I am, I to doubt I'd 
>> find Bermuda, so on to my destination...unless I had a portable 
>> radio I could make use as a makeshift RDF, or was within 50 miles 
>> and could get Bermuda Radio to give me a bearing on my VHF signal.
>>> 
>>> Given all the crap I have to pack on these trips, not having to 
>> take a sextant along--and get it through security without some bozo 
>> TSA agent picking it up by the arm and then getting it in the 
>> overhead bin without it being banged around, etc.--saves a lot of trouble.
>>> 
>>> I can use a hand-bearing compass to tell whether someone's 
>> gaining or losing
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album
>> <http://www.cncphotoalbum.com>http://www.cncphotoalbum.com
>> <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Andrew Burton
>> 61 W Narragansett Ave
>> Newport, RI
>> USA 02840
>> <http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/>http://sites.googl
> e.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 16:30:29 -0800
> From: Jimmy Kelly <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Stus-List redundant items
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> it has been mentioned use of portable transistor radio to find bermuda from
> mainland coast USA....back in late 70s ..80s many skippers going to
> windward islands went by way of bermuda...turned right near bermuda
> ..sailed directly south about 900 nm then sse to islands...we had b&g rdf
> and sailed the null to bermuda more than a few times on deliveries...simple
> & always reliable..especially if had couple cheap transistor
> radios...really quite simple.....never used autopilots  to much electric
> draw   ...loran  c  was degraded as travelled south....nice to have gps
> today to back up your  estimated position...we actually sailed to
> bermuda...where today seem to meet a lot of sailboats  motoring to
> destinations..just a note that really ,      alot has not changed  when
> sailing long distance atlantic offshore  just more gadgets from west marine
> to buy ...bigger fuel tanks..etc....
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 16:42:02 -0800
> From: Jimmy Kelly <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Stus-List storing handheld gps ..radios etc.
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> have not heard of oven storage before..would like to hear more...i was hit
> by lightning   a number years a go  ...only electrics not totally fried was
> spare  b&g  rdf...was not trailing ground  from shrouds  as was   & is
> still  a habit  thanks.
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 19:55:14 -0500
> From: Michael Brown <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Setting GPS Waypoints
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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> 
> Short answer is yes.
> 
> A bit more detail...? The ST4000 works OK until the amplitude of
> waves gives us a "corkscrew" path upwind. I played with various
> setting, like damping, and added a rudder sensor. The ST4000
> would steer but get out of cadence with the waves, then over or
> under correct. Not a big problem well off the wind or cruising,
> but I mainly race. Under spinnaker with a quartering sea I would
> be concerned about an accidental gybe.
> 
> The SPX-5 has an easy to adjust response setting. When set to
> responsive, upwind in 3' waves, 18 kts TWS it will hold a very tight
> course. Could set it for around 32 degrees AWA, think it would
> stray maybe +/- 2 degrees. I tried it downwind, hands on the wheel
> and ready to dis-engage the wheel drive, under spinnaker in
> 20 - 24 kts TWS. The SPX-5 kept a steady course even when the
> stern started to lift and surf.
> 
> The longer answer is that when racing solo under more exciting
> conditions the ST4000 was not useful. The SPX-5 does a competent
> job and I trust it enough to go forward and change sails.
> 
> Michael Brown
> Windburn
> C&C 30-1
> 
> PS: I can post more information about the installation and getting the
> Seatalk NG working with ST50 instruments on Seatalk 1 if anyone is
> interested.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 14:52:33 -0500 
> From: Steve Sharkey <[email protected]> 
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Setting GPS Waypoints 
> Message-ID: <[email protected]> 
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> Are you seeing significantly better performance from the SPX-5 vs the
> ST4000? 
> 
> Steve Sharkey 
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 16:58:46 -0800
> From: Jim Watts <[email protected]>
> To: 1 CnC List <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List storing handheld gps ..radios etc.
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> The concept, IIRC, is that the metal oven acts as a Faraday cage when it's
> closed and there is no entry point for a sideflash. I'm sure someone will
> correct me here.
> 
> Jim Watts
> Paradigm Shift
> C&C 35 Mk III
> Victoria, BC
> 
> 
>> On 16 January 2014 16:42, Jimmy Kelly <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> have not heard of oven storage before..would like to hear more...i was hit
>> by lightning   a number years a go  ...only electrics not totally fried
> was
>> spare  b&g  rdf...was not trailing ground  from shrouds  as was   & is
>> still  a habit  thanks.
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 21:01:24 -0400
> From: Rich Knowles <[email protected]>
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List storing handheld gps ..radios etc.
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> 
> Spot on. 
> 
> Rich
> 
>> On Jan 16, 2014, at 20:58, Jim Watts <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> The concept, IIRC, is that the metal oven acts as a Faraday cage when it's
> closed and there is no entry point for a sideflash. I'm sure someone will
> correct me here. 
>> 
>> Jim Watts
>> Paradigm Shift
>> C&C 35 Mk III
>> Victoria, BC
>> 
>> 
>>> On 16 January 2014 16:42, Jimmy Kelly <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> have not heard of oven storage before..would like to hear more...i was
> hit by lightning   a number years a go  ...only electrics not totally fried
> was  spare  b&g  rdf...was not trailing ground  from shrouds  as was   & is
> still  a habit  thanks.
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album
>>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com
>>> [email protected]
>>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 17:40:26 -0800
> From: Brad Crawford <[email protected]>
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Electronics - was Re: Setting GPS Waypoints
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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> 
> Andrew,
> I have used my iPad most of the time as a chartplotter also, using
> Navionics, we also carry back up paper charts.  So far our long distance
> trips have been to the San Juan islands and Gulf Islands of British
> Columbia.  Just out of curiosity, how far off shore have you used your iPad
> as a navigational tool, and have you always had cell coverage.
> 
> Brad
> C&C 36
> Dora Pearl 
> Seattle
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Jan 16, 2014, at 6:19 AM, Andrew Burton <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> 
>> Since getting my iPad a couple of years ago, I haven't pulled out a paper
> chart once. As you say, It's a great tool.
>> I have to admit that my sextant hasn't accompanied me on a passage since
> about 2007 or 50,000 miles ago. I carry spare GPSs, but in the back of my
> mind always is the possibility that the whole system may go down and then
> what do I do? Well, I'm pretty confident of my ability to keep a good DR and
> EP, and in my ability to stay out of trouble when approaching a shoreline if
> I'm not confident of my position (which is pretty much always).
>> 
>> The bottom line is, I think that learning piloting--coastal navigation,
> etc--is a higher priority than learning to use a sextant. 
>> 
>> One little trick when approaching a shoreline without a position fix for
> some time is to steer to one side of where you want to go. That way when you
> see land, you know which way to turn to make your port. So if I want to get
> to Charleston, I may aim for Hilton Head and when I see land, or it starts
> getting shallow, I know to turn north in order to get to Charleston. If I
> aim straight for where I want to go, and miss, I'm not sure which direction
> to turn, the land being pretty featureless from offshore. This tip is
> courtesy of Chichester from when he was flying his Gypsy Moth biplane.
>> 
>> Andy
>> C&C 40
>> Peregrine
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Marek Dziedzic <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>> I would say Speed first. It gives you enough that you can navigate
> (assuming that you have a compass (and a watch)).
>>> 
>>> I would drop Stereo from this list (we never have it on; I like the sound
> of sailing ? I hope this does not open a can of worms)
>>> 
>>> I would put a GPS ahead of the autopilot, probably, mainly, because of
> the costs associated.
>>> 
>>> Marek
>>> 
>>>> In order?
>>>> 1 Depth
>>>> 2 VHF
>>>> 3 Stereo
>>>> 4 Autopilot
>>>> 4 GPS
>>>> 5 Plotter
>>>> 6 Speed
>>>> 7 wind
>>>> 8 radar or AIS, depending on area of use; offshore, I'm not sure that
> AIS
>>>> isn't the more valuable tool
>>>> 9 SSB
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album
>>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com
>>> [email protected]
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Andrew Burton
>> 61 W Narragansett Ave
>> Newport, RI
>> USA 02840
>> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>> phone  +401 965 5260
>> _______________________________________________
>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album
>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com
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> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 18:16:48 -0800
> From: Russ & Melody <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Setting GPS Waypoints -> Seatalk
> Message-ID:
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> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> Please post the Seatalk talk info.
> 
> I don't need it right now but I save these kinds of posts for when I 
> do need it.
> 
>         Cheers, Russ
>         Sweet 35 mk-1
> 
> At 04:55 PM 16/01/2014, you wrote:
>> Short answer is yes.
>> .....
>> 
>> Michael Brown
>> Windburn
>> C&C 30-1
>> 
>> PS: I can post more information about the installation and getting the
>> Seatalk NG working with ST50 instruments on Seatalk 1 if anyone is
>> interested.
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> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 21:17:23 -0500
> From: Prime Interest <[email protected]>
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Electronics - was Re: Setting GPS Waypoints
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> 
> I've used my iPad for navigation on the Great Lakes using iNavx on an iPad
> without a SIM card and thus no cell service. Not sure whether Navionics
> requires a cell/internet connection to update chart information but iNax
> loads the regional maps so can operate in a unconnected manner.
> 
> Although I have location, AIS and boat instruments feeding the navigation
> application via a ShipModul Wifi multiplexer the iPads GPS works well enough
> by itself.
> 
> 
> 
> ed
> Prime Interest
> 1982 C&C Landfall 38
> Toronto, Canada
> 
> 
>> On Jan 16, 2014, at 8:40 PM, Brad Crawford <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Andrew,
>> I have used my iPad most of the time as a chartplotter also, using
> Navionics, we also carry back up paper charts.  So far our long distance
> trips have been to the San Juan islands and Gulf Islands of British
> Columbia.  Just out of curiosity, how far off shore have you used your iPad
> as a navigational tool, and have you always had cell coverage.
>> 
>> Brad
>> C&C 36
>> Dora Pearl 
>> Seattle
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Jan 16, 2014, at 6:19 AM, Andrew Burton <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Since getting my iPad a couple of years ago, I haven't pulled out a paper
> chart once. As you say, It's a great tool.
>>> I have to admit that my sextant hasn't accompanied me on a passage since
> about 2007 or 50,000 miles ago. I carry spare GPSs, but in the back of my
> mind always is the possibility that the whole system may go down and then
> what do I do? Well, I'm pretty confident of my ability to keep a good DR and
> EP, and in my ability to stay out of trouble when approaching a shoreline if
> I'm not confident of my position (which is pretty much always).
>>> 
>>> The bottom line is, I think that learning piloting--coastal navigation,
> etc--is a higher priority than learning to use a sextant. 
>>> 
>>> One little trick when approaching a shoreline without a position fix for
> some time is to steer to one side of where you want to go. That way when you
> see land, you know which way to turn to make your port. So if I want to get
> to Charleston, I may aim for Hilton Head and when I see  land, or it starts
> getting shallow, I know to turn north in order to get to Charleston. If I
> aim straight for where I want to go, and miss, I'm not sure which direction
> to turn, the land being pretty featureless from offshore. This tip is
> courtesy of Chichester from when he was flying his Gypsy Moth biplane.
>>> 
>>> Andy
>>> C&C 40
>>> Peregrine
>>> -- 
>>> Andrew Burton
>>> 61 W Narragansett Ave
>>> Newport, RI
>>> USA 02840
>>> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>>> phone  +401 965 5260
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album
>>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com
>>> [email protected]
>> _______________________________________________
>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album
>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com
>> [email protected]
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> Message: 11
> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 02:21:45 +0000
> From: Martin DeYoung <[email protected]>
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Electronics - was Re: Setting GPS Waypoints
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
>> ? how far off shore have you used your iPad as a navigational tool, and
> have you always had cell coverage.<
> 
> A few years back I experienced occasional coverage 5 to 10 miles offshore
> from Tofino BC (West Coast, Vancouver Island) to San Diego.  There is little
> to no Vancouver Island coverage north of Port Hardy around the top back
> south to Tofino.  On the inside of Vancouver Island, north of Campbell River
> the coverage can be spotty.  Your mileage will vary on the height of the
> cell tower and your carrier?s equipment.
> 
> A personal best for cell phone coverage was back in 1993 using a Motorola
> ?brick? phone.  I was 200 miles west of Cape Flattery and needed to contact
> the boat?s owner to discuss delivery of engine parts (+ coffee, bread, and a
> French brand of cigarettes) to Neah Bay.  I was firing up the SSB when one
> of the crew stated he had the owner on the cell phone.  My guess is the
> higher wattage of that era of cell phones allowed the signal to bounce off
> the atmosphere and hit an antenna on Vancouver Island.
> 
> For the US west coast, some cell coverage can be found when close to shore
> mostly near towns but I strongly recommend having a VHF.
> 
> As to the iPad or other non-marine nav aids offshore, carry backup nav aids
> (paper charts, separate GPS etc.) as the salt water never rests in its
> relentless attack on electronics and your power will always quit at the
> worst possible time (i.e. not on bright sunny days with the coast in sight).
> 
> Martin
> Calypso
> 1971 C&C 43
> Seattle
> From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brad
> Crawford
> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2014 5:40 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Electronics - was Re: Setting GPS Waypoints
> 
> Andrew,
> I have used my iPad most of the time as a chartplotter also, using
> Navionics, we also carry back up paper charts.  So far our long distance
> trips have been to the San Juan islands and Gulf Islands of British
> Columbia.  Just out of curiosity, how far off shore have you used your iPad
> as a navigational tool, and have you always had cell coverage.
> 
> Brad
> C&C 36
> Dora Pearl
> Seattle
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 21:26:53 -0500
> From: Joel Aronson <[email protected]>
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Electronics - was Re: Setting GPS Waypoints
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> If your IPad has cell capability it will work as a GPS without cell service.
> 
> Joel
> 
> On Thursday, January 16, 2014, Martin DeYoung <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
>>> ? how far off shore have you used your iPad as a navigational tool, and
>> have you always had cell coverage.<
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> A few years back I experienced occasional coverage 5 to 10 miles offshore
>> from Tofino BC (West Coast, Vancouver Island) to San Diego.  There is
>> little to no Vancouver Island coverage north of Port Hardy around the top
>> back south to Tofino.  On the inside of Vancouver Island, north of
> Campbell
>> River the coverage can be spotty.  Your mileage will vary on the height of
>> the cell tower and your carrier?s equipment.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> A personal best for cell phone coverage was back in 1993 using a Motorola
>> ?brick? phone.  I was 200 miles west of Cape Flattery and needed to
> contact
>> the boat?s owner to discuss delivery of engine parts (+ coffee, bread, and
>> a French brand of cigarettes) to Neah Bay.  I was firing up the SSB when
>> one of the crew stated he had the owner on the cell phone.  My guess is
> the
>> higher wattage of that era of cell phones allowed the signal to bounce off
>> the atmosphere and hit an antenna on Vancouver Island.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> For the US west coast, some cell coverage can be found when close to shore
>> mostly near towns but I strongly recommend having a VHF.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> As to the iPad or other non-marine nav aids offshore, carry backup nav
>> aids (paper charts, separate GPS etc.) as the salt water never rests in
> its
>> relentless attack on electronics and your power will always quit at the
>> worst possible time (i.e. not on bright sunny days with the coast in
> sight).
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Martin
>> 
>> Calypso
>> 
>> 1971 C&C 43
>> 
>> Seattle
>> 
>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:[email protected] <javascript:_e({},
>> 'cvml', '[email protected]');>] *On Behalf Of *Brad Crawford
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 16, 2014 5:40 PM
>> *To:* [email protected] <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
>> '[email protected]');>
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Electronics - was Re: Setting GPS Waypoints
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Andrew,
>> 
>> I have used my iPad most of the time as a chartplotter also, using
>> Navionics, we also carry back up paper charts.  So far our long distance
>> trips have been to the San Juan islands and Gulf Islands of British
>> Columbia.  Just out of curiosity, how far off shore have you used your
> iPad
>> as a navigational tool, and have you always had cell coverage.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Brad
>> 
>> C&C 36
>> 
>> Dora Pearl
>> 
>> Seattle
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> -- 
> Joel
> 301 541 8551
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> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 19:29:34 -0700
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