Steve,

 

I don't necessarily agree with you about the advantages to the consumer of
what you propose, but stop for a minute and ask yourself:

 

Why does an Android tablet sell for $250 (I actually saw an Lenovo 10" 32
meg android tablet at Office Depot today for $129. The 7" was only $99),
while an iPAD costs $700?

 

The answer is the software. Assuming the Apple product is the best quality
available anywhere, the production cost might be. say $50 more than your
Nexus tablet. But it has a proprietary chip and software that some consider
fabulous. And an image as being unique and superior. So many folks will pay
a premium price for the device. And I've read that Apple's margin on the
iPad and iPhone are over 50%.

 

All the android tablets use basically the same chip and the same
componentry. There are differences of appearance and displays, some minor
differences in functionality, and differences in support and the
manufacturer's reputation, but the big selling feature is the price. And
when the competition is based on price, margin goes out the window and only
volume can make profits.

 

And, frankly, the marine marketplace just isn't that big to generate a lot
of profit at small margins. 

 

Think about the different instrument systems available for your boat. Isn't
it almost universally true that the individual components aren't real
friendly with each other - despite the existence of NMEA2000? Oh, you can
connect your Raytalk to your Tactick to your Garmin Nexus to your Simnet
evo2 to NMEA2000 if you want them to play nicely. provided you buy the
proper interface boxes. But each manufacturer has a proprietary network to
make sure you don't wander off and buy a less expensive/less profitable
instrument than the one they sell.

 

The proprietary software is how they get you to pay $1500 for the GPS
display. If the software wasn't proprietary, you could buy less expensive
components and only the guy licensing the software (think of it, the boating
equivalent of Bill Gates)  and the guys making the chips would be making any
money.

 

Sorry to rain on your parade. Wish the world was different. It really would
be nice to buy flexible, capable, reliable instruments for a couple hundred
dollars.

 

Rick Brass

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stevan
Plavsa
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 9:10 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Navigation Software

 

The Hyundai will get you there, but the BMW will offer a nicer experience. 

 

A nexus 7 costs what, $250? I can drop six of them in the lake for what a
Raymarine E series costs. It fails to compete with the plotter for "marine
readyness" but otherwise it does so, so much more. A plotter is better at
the helm, no doubt. The market is changing though and the big guys need to
keep up. Maintaining a proprietary code base, IMO, is not the way.

 

Steve

Suhana, C&C 32

Toronto

 

 

 

 

On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 8:44 PM, Rich Knowles <r...@sailpower.ca> wrote:

Basically ditto Robert. Elegance and reliability wins. 

Rich


On Feb 19, 2014, at 21:35, Robert Boyer <dainyr...@icloud.com> wrote:

I hesitate to get into a debate about Apple vs. all other devices but I
will.

 

During most of my engineering career I used Windows machines and looked down
on Apple--until I got one!  And then another, and another...

 

I will never go back!

 

To see the difference, all you have to do is start both machines (laptops)
at the same time--there's a world of difference, the Apple being much
faster. 

 

I have never had a memory device failure in any of my iDevices while I
regularly had hard drive crashes in Toshibas, HPs, etc.  iDevices simply
have much higher quality than other devices--that's why you are paying
more--it's not just for the name.  They also hold their value better when
you sell them after you buy a new one--try that with another similar device
of any brand (they are usually worthless when it's time to upgrade).

 

I am clearly an Apple fan--they won me over!  And I didn't even bring up
iCloud and it's advantages...

 

All this being said, I wouldn't use my iPad in the cockpit of my boat as my
primary navigation device--I have a chart plotter at the helm for that
purpose.

 

And to those that complain about not buying a state-of-the-art chart plotter
because in 3 years it will be outdated--the same obsolescence will apply to
tablets and laptops and while it's true tablets cost less--they may not
after you drop one or two in the sea or lake.

 

Bob


Bob Boyer

S/V Rainy Days (1983 C&C Landfall 38 - Hull #230)

Annapolis, Maryland

email: dainyr...@icloud.com

blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com

"There's nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as messing
about in boats." -Kenneth Grahame 

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