I do not claim to be an expert at this and especially for your design but I think you may go faster and point higher if you have a little leeward sag in the mast. What I mean is, try to set your shroud tensions including intermediate stay tensions so that when going to weather the mast has a leeward bow when sighting from bottom to top on a weather leg caused by the tensions on the shrouds with maximum leeward bow at the intermediate spreaders. Starting point for tensions on your upper shrouds should be in the neighborhood of 1300 measured with the Loos gage, the lowers or intermediates less, maybe 700 to 800. Try it out and do some port tack, starboard tack beat legs in fresh air to get it right for your boat and how you like the helm...light helm is best...no braking from the rudder but light helm with feathering up can be hard to steer...it's about balance and what feel you like but if you like a heavy weather helm you will likely be slower than the boat could do...but be sure you start with a straight mast with about 1 foot of rake and a tensioned headstay to about the same as your uppers, maybe 2000 on the backstay...just my suggestions for you which now might get a few more inputs from this list of experts on C&C sailboats
-----Original Message----- From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stephen Thorne Sent: March 27, 2014 2:09 PM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: Stus-List Mast Tune Guys I am looking for help with tuning my mast. Any advice is greatly appreciated. I have a C&C 34+ with double spreader mast that has one upper, one intermediate and one lower rod shroud. I borrowed a friends loos gage other day and have stb and port set exactly same. I understand how to look up mast for straightness and to go sailing for fine tune . My question is this - what is starting ratio for upper - intermediate - lower? If upper is say 2400lbs then would lower be 55% or 1300lbs o upper? Would intermediate be slightly less ie 1100/45% of upper? I'm trying to get the starting point of approximate lbs for upper/intermediate/lower in lbs and ratio. Thanks for any help you all can provide. Steve Deja Vu C&C34+ Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 27, 2014, at 11:47 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Inverters ([email protected]) > 2. Re: Honda 2000i (Wally Bryant) > 3. Re: Honda 2000i ([email protected]) > 4. Re: Nightmare winter (Stevan Plavsa) > 5. Re: Nightmare winter (Joel Aronson) > 6. Re: Inverters (William Hall) > 7. Re: Inverters (Stevan Plavsa) > 8. Re: Inverters (Della Barba, Joe) > 9. Re: Inverters (Stevan Plavsa) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 10:46:47 -0400 > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Inverters > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Usually it's a remote panel for the inverter. It's an option on the cheaper units, standard on the higher end models. > > John > > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Mar 27, 2014, at 10:29 AM, Edd Schillay <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> All, >> >> I?ve always wanted to have a setup like this, but, as part of it, put the inverter in a locker or behind the instrument panel so the wires and the big metal box are hidden. Does anyone have something like this set up? And, if so, how do you power on the inverter? >> >> Or do you have the inverter out and have a cord plugged into one of the outlets that runs back inside to your shore/gen switch? >> >> >> All the best, >> >> Edd >> >> >> Edd M. Schillay >> Starship Enterprise >> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B >> City Island, NY >> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log >> >>> On Mar 27, 2014, at 10:07 AM, Ken Heaton <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Edd, >>> >>> Blue Seas makes a couple of different ways to switch between an Inverter and Shore Power. Either solution could be mounted next to the AC Panel beside the Chart Table on the Enterprise. >>> >>> Here are links to the switches (two ways of doing this): >>> >>> http://www.bluesea.com/products/8367/AC_Rotary_Switch_Panel_30_Ampere_2_posi tions_%2B_OFF_2_Pole >>> >>> or >>> >>> http://www.bluesea.com/products/8032/Traditional_Metal_Panel_-_120V_AC_30A_T oggle_Source_Selector >>> >>> The Rotary Switch is a little cheaper than the Breaker solution and you don't need the breakers as you have a main breaker in the AC panel right next to the suggested switch location. >>> >>> To wire this up, the existing wire from the existing shore power inlet (which goes directly to your existing AC Panel) would now go directly to one side of the Rotary Switch and a new, short wire would jump from the Rotary Switch to the existing AC panel. A new wire from the inverter would go to the other side of the Rotary Switch. Simple. >>> >>> Ken H. >>> >>> >>>> On 27 March 2014 10:44, Edd Schillay <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Dennis, >>>> >>>> Interesting. Where do you have your shore/gen switch and how is everything wired up? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> All the best, >>>> >>>> Edd >>>> >>>> >>>> Edd M. Schillay >>>> Starship Enterprise >>>> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B >>>> City Island, NY >>>> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log >>>> >>>>> On Mar 27, 2014, at 9:34 AM, Dennis C. <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Ray, >>>>> >>>>> It's a small 120 Volt AC travel dryer. It works OK for the admiral. >>>>> >>>>> When on the hook all my 120 v receptacles are powered by the 1000 watt inverter through a "shore/gen" switch. She can plug it in to any of 5 receptacles throughout the boat. >>>>> >>>>> Dennis C. >>>>> Touch? 35-1 #83 >>>>> Mandeville, LA >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 26, 2014, at 11:36 PM, RAYMOND SHIBE <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Dennis, >>>>>> Now take that new hair dryer and connect it to your car battery to see how it works. My situation is >>>>>> somewhat different but we had a 12 v coffee maker. 45 minutes to make coffee. We now use a Sea Cook propane stove in the cockpit, 10 minutes to perc a pot and better coffee.. >>>>>> Ray Shibe >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>>>>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>>>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>>> [email protected] >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>> [email protected] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> [email protected] > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140327/86 64f433/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 14:48:22 +0000 > From: Wally Bryant <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Stus-List Honda 2000i > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Right. I avoid crowded anchorages anyway, and tend to anchor well away > from other people so I don't have to worry about people dragging into > me. (Although a couple of weeks ago someone did start dragging and > missed me by five feet.) Right now I'm on the hook and was nearly 3/8 > mile from the nearest boat... although last night somebody pulled in and > dropped the hook 200 feet away. I dunno why, it's not like there isn't > a ton of room. If I bother him he can move. > > I don't run it at night or during happy hour if there are other people > around. In this spot we have an afternoon thermal that runs from 10-20 > knots in an open roadstead anchorage that can get rather sloppy. It's a > great time to fire up the little Honda and top off the batteries. > > The 12V jack only outputs 8A with no intelligence, and isn't worth using > on a boat. > > If anyone comes over here and tosses it overboard, I'll go over there > and toss his outboard overboard. They're noiser. > > Wal > > you wrote: >> Be aware of and mindful of your neighbours so don't run it when the >> anchorage would otherwise be silent. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 10:49:11 -0400 > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Honda 2000i > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Mike: > > Just caught the Buzzards Bay location. Would you mind if I contact you off list? My wife and I may have an opportunity to relocate to that area from Long Island. > > John > > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Mar 27, 2014, at 10:04 AM, "Fair, Mike" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Ditto. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Mike Fair >> Buzzards Bay >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] >> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 8:20 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Stus-List Honda 2000i >> >> In the last boat, I had a nice monster of a genset in an 8kw westerbeke. It served its purpose well at the time in that we effectively had more power at anchor than we did dockside. In planning my next cruising boat, it will NOT have a genset. They are >> >> Noisy >> Smelly >> Addicted to maintenance >> Heavy >> Real estate hogs >> Require fuel >> A great way of annoying people at anchorages >> >> Sorry, but the little Honda Gensets that sit on deck are even worse. You may not hear or smell it but the person behind you certainly will. In a popular/crowded anchorage everyone comes prepared to accept a little inconvenience. In a nice quiet little cove with just you and one or two other boats it's a different story. >> >> Just an opinion >> >> John >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Mar 27, 2014, at 7:54 AM, "Kim Brown" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Richard >>> I have a Honda 2000i as well: Northern Tool for $1000. Note there are 2 >>> slightly different models - one is set up to parallel for bigger >>> loads, the other has a DC out. >>> >>> On my 35-3 it will just fit between the propane lockers aft by the >>> rudder stock (my humped helm seat is in the garage). When in use it >>> just sits on the Starboard cockpit coaming to get the exhaust up and >>> out. It doesn't seem like it should sit there but I have never had a >>> problem. I have a short cord I made up to plug it into the shore >>> power outlet. Then I can run any of the 120 systems I need. (AC, >>> battery charger, microwave, outlets.) >>> >>> It is quiet but not silent. I can't run both the AC (9,000btu) and the >>> battery charger at the same time. It gets close but after a couple >>> minutes craps out with an overload. It is a great generator and surely >>> will allow hair drying. But I only bring it when I know I will need AC on the hook. >>> Otherwise it is bulky (though less so than other generators) and in >>> the way and adds an xtra gas can (dinghy 2 stroke/ Generator 4 stroke) >>> Usually it is on standby hurricane duty. Got it after Charley- Not >>> ever doing storm clean-up with only warm beer again.... >>> >>> Kim Brown >>> TrustMe!!! 35-3 >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com [email protected] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com [email protected] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> [email protected] > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 11:11:55 -0400 > From: Stevan Plavsa <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Nightmare winter > Message-ID: > <CADdEvn4gpEiJro_cVVM21Opb_cnDpa7VhOSpFChLagegQYWQ=q...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I'm on the mooring raft this weekend. Still winter in Toronto but our > anchorage should be ice free by now. Water is gonna be COLD. Not a fun job > but we always have a difficult time rounding up club members for this > important work so I go out every spring. Last spring was pretty easy > compared to others. This spring .. er, whatever this season is .. gonna > suck. > > Steve > Suhana, C&C 32 > Toronto > > > > On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Marek Dziedzic <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Dwight, >> >> not even close. We are, weather wise, in the middle of winter. >> >> Our Club launch is normally scheduled for the first weekend of May. So >> far, we always make it (as in : the ice is gone; though, last year we >> barely made it). I count on the mother nature to deal with this problem; >> she usually does. >> >> Marek >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 7 >> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 09:52:43 -0300 >> From: "dwight" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> >> Subject: Re: Stus-List Nightmare winter >> Message-ID: <066DD6AB068A46E19537ADF123DAD5F9@your4dacd0ea75> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> [...] >> how about you guys in Ottawa.close to tulip season and launch I bet :-) >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> [email protected] > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140327/03 f071a3/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 11:18:13 -0400 > From: Joel Aronson <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Nightmare winter > Message-ID: > <cael16p8foeoxvpasmh+0upc+86qzh+kmy1zrmfzljqwd-c-...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Its going to be in the 40s today, so it is warm enough to paint the bottom. > Launch is tomorrow at high tide if the last storm didn't blow all the > water out of the river! > Only 1 week later than planned, but way ahead of everyone else in the > marina. > > Joel > 35/3 > Annapolis > > > On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Stevan Plavsa <[email protected]>wrote: > >> I'm on the mooring raft this weekend. Still winter in Toronto but our >> anchorage should be ice free by now. Water is gonna be COLD. Not a fun job >> but we always have a difficult time rounding up club members for this >> important work so I go out every spring. Last spring was pretty easy >> compared to others. This spring .. er, whatever this season is .. gonna >> suck. >> >> Steve >> Suhana, C&C 32 >> Toronto >> >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Marek Dziedzic <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Dwight, >>> >>> not even close. We are, weather wise, in the middle of winter. >>> >>> Our Club launch is normally scheduled for the first weekend of May. So >>> far, we always make it (as in : the ice is gone; though, last year we >>> barely made it). I count on the mother nature to deal with this problem; >>> she usually does. >>> >>> Marek >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 7 >>> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 09:52:43 -0300 >>> From: "dwight" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> >>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Nightmare winter >>> Message-ID: <066DD6AB068A46E19537ADF123DAD5F9@your4dacd0ea75> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> [...] >>> how about you guys in Ottawa.close to tulip season and launch I bet :-) >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>> [email protected] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> [email protected] > > > -- > Joel > 301 541 8551 > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140327/6b 5bacfb/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 11:16:17 -0400 > From: William Hall <[email protected]> > To: cnc-list <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Inverters > Message-ID: > <cafs7zr57zzf-tvor_gs_sntee26hkx5ydjiwwguknjo6otf...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > The PO located my inverter on a shelf at the forward end of the lazarette. > It doubles as a battery charger. It has a power switch on the back that you > can reach through the lazarette, but mostly I leave it on and control it > through the remote control which is mounted near the breaker panel. I think > it's 2kw, big enough for your wife's hair dryer. It runs my automatic > espresso machine just fine. I can look up make and model if you'd like. > Bill Hall > 1985 C&C 37 Starfire > Stamford, CT > > >> On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 10:40 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Invertors need to breathe, they dissipate heat, so unless your loads are >> really minimal a locker is going to need effective ventilation. >> >> Steve Thomas >> >> ------------------------------ >> From: [email protected] >> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 10:29:02 -0400 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Stus-List Inverters >> >> All, >> >> I've always wanted to have a setup like this, but, as part of it, put the >> inverter in a locker or behind the instrument panel so the wires and the >> big metal box are hidden. Does anyone have something like this set up? And, >> if so, how do you power on the inverter? >> >> Or do you have the inverter out and have a cord plugged into one of the >> outlets that runs back inside to your shore/gen switch? >> >> >> All the best, >> >> Edd >> >> >> Edd M. Schillay >> Starship Enterprise >> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B >> City Island, NY >> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log <http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/> >> >> On Mar 27, 2014, at 10:07 AM, Ken Heaton <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Edd, >> >> Blue Seas makes a couple of different ways to switch between an Inverter >> and Shore Power. Either solution could be mounted next to the AC Panel >> beside the Chart Table on the Enterprise. >> >> Here are links to the switches (two ways of doing this): >> >> >> http://www.bluesea.com/products/8367/AC_Rotary_Switch_Panel_30_Ampere_2_posi tions_%2B_OFF_2_Pole >> >> or >> >> >> http://www.bluesea.com/products/8032/Traditional_Metal_Panel_-_120V_AC_30A_T oggle_Source_Selector >> >> The Rotary Switch is a little cheaper than the Breaker solution and you >> don't need the breakers as you have a main breaker in the AC panel right >> next to the suggested switch location. >> >> To wire this up, the existing wire from the existing shore power inlet >> (which goes directly to your existing AC Panel) would now go directly to >> one side of the Rotary Switch and a new, short wire would jump from the >> Rotary Switch to the existing AC panel. A new wire from the inverter would >> go to the other side of the Rotary Switch. Simple. >> >> Ken H. >> >> >> On 27 March 2014 10:44, Edd Schillay <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Dennis, >> >> Interesting. Where do you have your shore/gen switch and how is everything >> wired up? >> >> >> >> All the best, >> >> Edd >> >> >> Edd M. Schillay >> Starship Enterprise >> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B >> City Island, NY >> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log <http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/> >> >> On Mar 27, 2014, at 9:34 AM, Dennis C. <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Ray, >> >> It's a small 120 Volt AC travel dryer. It works OK for the admiral. >> >> When on the hook all my 120 v receptacles are powered by the 1000 watt >> inverter through a "shore/gen" switch. She can plug it in to any of 5 >> receptacles throughout the boat. >> >> Dennis C. >> Touch? 35-1 #83 >> Mandeville, LA >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Mar 26, 2014, at 11:36 PM, RAYMOND SHIBE <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Dennis, >> Now take that new hair dryer and connect it to your car battery to see how >> it works. My situation is >> somewhat different but we had a 12 v coffee maker. 45 minutes to make >> coffee. We now use a Sea Cook propane stove in the cockpit, 10 minutes to >> perc a pot and better coffee.. >> Ray Shibe >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> [email protected] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> [email protected] >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ This List is provided by >> the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com [email protected] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> [email protected] > > > -- > William D. Hall, Ph.D. > 203 653 2886 (o) > 617 620 9078 (c) > [email protected] > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140327/1d 3e2237/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 11:26:12 -0400 > From: Stevan Plavsa <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Inverters > Message-ID: > <caddevn6+tea3vfprvykre3hymmasky7uheg9tqxyyjiuadw...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > My charger is mounted inside the engine compartment .. would that be a > suitable location for an inverter? > I like that rotary switch. > > Steve > Suhana, C&C 32 > Toronto > > > >> On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 10:46 AM, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Usually it's a remote panel for the inverter. It's an option on the >> cheaper units, standard on the higher end models. >> >> John >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Mar 27, 2014, at 10:29 AM, Edd Schillay <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> All, >> >> I've always wanted to have a setup like this, but, as part of it, put the >> inverter in a locker or behind the instrument panel so the wires and the >> big metal box are hidden. Does anyone have something like this set up? And, >> if so, how do you power on the inverter? >> >> Or do you have the inverter out and have a cord plugged into one of the >> outlets that runs back inside to your shore/gen switch? >> >> >> All the best, >> >> Edd >> >> >> Edd M. Schillay >> Starship Enterprise >> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B >> City Island, NY >> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log <http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/> >> >> On Mar 27, 2014, at 10:07 AM, Ken Heaton <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Edd, >> >> Blue Seas makes a couple of different ways to switch between an Inverter >> and Shore Power. Either solution could be mounted next to the AC Panel >> beside the Chart Table on the Enterprise. >> >> Here are links to the switches (two ways of doing this): >> >> >> http://www.bluesea.com/products/8367/AC_Rotary_Switch_Panel_30_Ampere_2_posi tions_%2B_OFF_2_Pole >> >> or >> >> >> http://www.bluesea.com/products/8032/Traditional_Metal_Panel_-_120V_AC_30A_T oggle_Source_Selector >> >> The Rotary Switch is a little cheaper than the Breaker solution and you >> don't need the breakers as you have a main breaker in the AC panel right >> next to the suggested switch location. >> >> To wire this up, the existing wire from the existing shore power inlet >> (which goes directly to your existing AC Panel) would now go directly to >> one side of the Rotary Switch and a new, short wire would jump from the >> Rotary Switch to the existing AC panel. A new wire from the inverter would >> go to the other side of the Rotary Switch. Simple. >> >> Ken H. >> >> >>> On 27 March 2014 10:44, Edd Schillay <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Dennis, >>> >>> Interesting. Where do you have your shore/gen switch and how is >>> everything wired up? >>> >>> >>> >>> All the best, >>> >>> Edd >>> >>> >>> Edd M. Schillay >>> Starship Enterprise >>> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B >>> City Island, NY >>> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log <http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/> >>> >>> On Mar 27, 2014, at 9:34 AM, Dennis C. <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Ray, >>> >>> It's a small 120 Volt AC travel dryer. It works OK for the admiral. >>> >>> When on the hook all my 120 v receptacles are powered by the 1000 watt >>> inverter through a "shore/gen" switch. She can plug it in to any of 5 >>> receptacles throughout the boat. >>> >>> Dennis C. >>> Touch? 35-1 #83 >>> Mandeville, LA >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Mar 26, 2014, at 11:36 PM, RAYMOND SHIBE <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Dennis, >>> Now take that new hair dryer and connect it to your car battery to see >>> how it works. My situation is >>> somewhat different but we had a 12 v coffee maker. 45 minutes to make >>> coffee. We now use a Sea Cook propane stove in the cockpit, 10 minutes to >>> perc a pot and better coffee.. >>> Ray Shibe >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>> [email protected] >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>> [email protected] >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> [email protected] >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> [email protected] >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> [email protected] > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140327/c0 7d058d/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 11:43:32 -0400 > From: "Della Barba, Joe" <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Inverters > Message-ID: > <1073606396712942aee54d9a960e45a71e1edcb...@hq-mb-07.ba.ad.ssa.gov> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Too hot. > > Joe Della Barba > From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stevan Plavsa > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 11:26 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Stus-List Inverters > > My charger is mounted inside the engine compartment .. would that be a suitable location for an inverter? > I like that rotary switch. > > Steve > Suhana, C&C 32 > Toronto > > > On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 10:46 AM, [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Usually it's a remote panel for the inverter. It's an option on the cheaper units, standard on the higher end models. > > John > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Mar 27, 2014, at 10:29 AM, Edd Schillay <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > All, > > I've always wanted to have a setup like this, but, as part of it, put the inverter in a locker or behind the instrument panel so the wires and the big metal box are hidden. Does anyone have something like this set up? And, if so, how do you power on the inverter? > > Or do you have the inverter out and have a cord plugged into one of the outlets that runs back inside to your shore/gen switch? > > All the best, > > Edd > > > Edd M. Schillay > Starship Enterprise > C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B > City Island, NY > Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log<http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/> > > On Mar 27, 2014, at 10:07 AM, Ken Heaton <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > Edd, > > Blue Seas makes a couple of different ways to switch between an Inverter and Shore Power. Either solution could be mounted next to the AC Panel beside the Chart Table on the Enterprise. > > Here are links to the switches (two ways of doing this): > > http://www.bluesea.com/products/8367/AC_Rotary_Switch_Panel_30_Ampere_2_posi tions_%2B_OFF_2_Pole > > or > > http://www.bluesea.com/products/8032/Traditional_Metal_Panel_-_120V_AC_30A_T oggle_Source_Selector > > The Rotary Switch is a little cheaper than the Breaker solution and you don't need the breakers as you have a main breaker in the AC panel right next to the suggested switch location. > > To wire this up, the existing wire from the existing shore power inlet (which goes directly to your existing AC Panel) would now go directly to one side of the Rotary Switch and a new, short wire would jump from the Rotary Switch to the existing AC panel. A new wire from the inverter would go to the other side of the Rotary Switch. Simple. > > Ken H. > > On 27 March 2014 10:44, Edd Schillay <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Dennis, > > Interesting. Where do you have your shore/gen switch and how is everything wired up? > > > All the best, > > Edd > > > Edd M. Schillay > Starship Enterprise > C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B > City Island, NY > Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log<http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/> > > On Mar 27, 2014, at 9:34 AM, Dennis C. <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > Ray, > > It's a small 120 Volt AC travel dryer. It works OK for the admiral. > > When on the hook all my 120 v receptacles are powered by the 1000 watt inverter through a "shore/gen" switch. She can plug it in to any of 5 receptacles throughout the boat. > > Dennis C. > Touch? 35-1 #83 > Mandeville, LA > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 26, 2014, at 11:36 PM, RAYMOND SHIBE <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Dennis, > Now take that new hair dryer and connect it to your car battery to see how it works. My situation is > somewhat different but we had a 12 v coffee maker. 45 minutes to make coffee. We now use a Sea Cook propane stove in the cockpit, 10 minutes to perc a pot and better coffee.. > Ray Shibe > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com<http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/> > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com<http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/> > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com<http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/> > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140327/89 e53058/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 11:46:54 -0400 > From: Stevan Plavsa <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Inverters > Message-ID: > <caddevn5koy4quxmadn++amd7z8ljspodo7jm5tscakcwstb...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > My engine compartment takes up the whole aft end of the boat including the > lazarette and port side cockpit locker. It never gets really hot in there > and I won't likely be using the inverter while motoring. Or will I? It's > probably one of those things you never knew you needed until you had. > > Steve > Suhana, C&C 32 > Toronto > > > > On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Della Barba, Joe > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Too hot. >> >> >> >> *Joe Della Barba* >> >> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Stevan >> Plavsa >> *Sent:* Thursday, March 27, 2014 11:26 AM >> >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Inverters >> >> >> >> My charger is mounted inside the engine compartment .. would that be a >> suitable location for an inverter? >> >> I like that rotary switch. >> >> >> >> Steve >> >> Suhana, C&C 32 >> >> Toronto >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 10:46 AM, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Usually it's a remote panel for the inverter. It's an option on the >> cheaper units, standard on the higher end models. >> >> >> >> John >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> >> On Mar 27, 2014, at 10:29 AM, Edd Schillay <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> All, >> >> >> >> I've always wanted to have a setup like this, but, as part of it, put the >> inverter in a locker or behind the instrument panel so the wires and the >> big metal box are hidden. Does anyone have something like this set up? And, >> if so, how do you power on the inverter? >> >> >> >> Or do you have the inverter out and have a cord plugged into one of the >> outlets that runs back inside to your shore/gen switch? >> >> >> >> All the best, >> >> >> >> Edd >> >> >> >> >> >> Edd M. Schillay >> >> Starship Enterprise >> >> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B >> >> City Island, NY >> >> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log <http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/> >> >> >> >> On Mar 27, 2014, at 10:07 AM, Ken Heaton <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> Edd, >> >> >> >> Blue Seas makes a couple of different ways to switch between an Inverter >> and Shore Power. Either solution could be mounted next to the AC Panel >> beside the Chart Table on the Enterprise. >> >> >> >> Here are links to the switches (two ways of doing this): >> >> >> >> >> http://www.bluesea.com/products/8367/AC_Rotary_Switch_Panel_30_Ampere_2_posi tions_%2B_OFF_2_Pole >> >> >> >> or >> >> >> >> >> http://www.bluesea.com/products/8032/Traditional_Metal_Panel_-_120V_AC_30A_T oggle_Source_Selector >> >> >> >> The Rotary Switch is a little cheaper than the Breaker solution and you >> don't need the breakers as you have a main breaker in the AC panel right >> next to the suggested switch location. >> >> >> >> To wire this up, the existing wire from the existing shore power inlet >> (which goes directly to your existing AC Panel) would now go directly to >> one side of the Rotary Switch and a new, short wire would jump from the >> Rotary Switch to the existing AC panel. A new wire from the inverter would >> go to the other side of the Rotary Switch. Simple. >> >> >> >> Ken H. >> >> >> >> On 27 March 2014 10:44, Edd Schillay <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Dennis, >> >> >> >> Interesting. Where do you have your shore/gen switch and how is everything >> wired up? >> >> >> >> >> >> All the best, >> >> >> >> Edd >> >> >> >> >> >> Edd M. Schillay >> >> Starship Enterprise >> >> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B >> >> City Island, NY >> >> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log <http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/> >> >> >> >> On Mar 27, 2014, at 9:34 AM, Dennis C. <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> Ray, >> >> >> >> It's a small 120 Volt AC travel dryer. It works OK for the admiral. >> >> >> >> When on the hook all my 120 v receptacles are powered by the 1000 watt >> inverter through a "shore/gen" switch. She can plug it in to any of 5 >> receptacles throughout the boat. >> >> >> >> Dennis C. >> >> Touch? 35-1 #83 >> >> Mandeville, LA >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> On Mar 26, 2014, at 11:36 PM, RAYMOND SHIBE <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Dennis, >> >> Now take that new hair dryer and connect it to your car battery to see how >> it works. My situation is >> somewhat different but we had a 12 v coffee maker. 45 minutes to make >> coffee. We now use a Sea Cook propane stove in the cockpit, 10 minutes to >> perc a pot and better coffee.. >> >> Ray Shibe >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> [email protected] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> [email protected] >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> [email protected] > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140327/cf 2f1a73/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > CnC-List mailing list > [email protected] > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > ------------------------------ > > End of CnC-List Digest, Vol 98, Issue 92 > **************************************** _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com [email protected] _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com [email protected]
