Dan, some questions to ask as you are deciding.... are you setting this up to 
race? how many crew? where will they be?

I made a bit of a mistake in bring all my lines except the outhaul and reef 
back to the cockpit (don't have quite as many as you as it's only a 30). Now, I 
have too many people and lines and elbows in the cockpit - and on a 30, that's 
too much weight in the back.

I have the spin halyard, two genoa halyards and the vang on the port side of 
the cabin top and the pole topping lift, main halyard and pole downhaul on the 
starboard. The traveler and main sheet are on the bridgedeck right aft of the 
companionway. That is about three or four people in the space for two. Then add 
the trimmers and driver and you get real busy.

A 41 foot boat I've raced on left the halyards, the outhaul, reefing and 
cunningham on the mast and boom - that way some weight is forward and less 
elbows in the cockpit.

Look at it that way and you may answer your own question.

If you are cruising and just want to be able to handle the chute - and have 
less crew - different story.

Gary
St. Michaels MD


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Daniel Sheer 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 5:30 PM
  Subject: Stus-List What to lead aft


  Since I'm now setting up to fly a chute, I have to decide what lines to bring 
aft and which to cleat off at the mast base. And I'm confused. Actually I'm a 
citizen of that state.


  This is what I'm thinking. Advice solicited.



  The 2 reefing lines and the outhaul go to a Barient 10 winch on the boom with 
both a clam cleat ahead of the winch (outhaul) and a horn cleat behind 
(reefers). I don't intend to change that, at least not immediately. Be nice to 
have them aft, the reefers at least. Maybe someday.



  The mainsheet, traveller lines, foreguy (starbord) and Genoa roller furler 
line (port) must come aft. There's a self tailing Bar 23 on the cabin top 
center at the cockpit for the main sheet (companionway is offset to starboard 
on the LF38) and clam cleats for the foreguy (on the starboard cabin side at 
the cockpit), roller furler (on the outside of the port coaming - goes to the 
primary sheet winch, a Bar 28) and traveller lines (cabin top, aft of the 
outboard ends of the traveller).


  Secondary sheet winches (Bar 22) are forward of the primaries and will be 
used for the staysail sheets and the spin sheet. The spin guy will go to the 
primary, I think. Staysail and spin sheets go through 4 separate snatch blocks.



  There are 4 cabin top winches (1 Bar 10s and 3 18s with individual cleats 
near the mast, and one Bar 10 on the mast with a cleat.


  I have 4 rope clutches sharing one secondary cabin top winch (Barient 22) to 
port at the cockpit. There's a single horn cleat between the mainsheet winch 
and the 22 that is usually used to back up the clutch for the main halyard. The 
candidate lines to bring aft to the rope clutches are, in my order of 
preference:



  1) Main halyard

  2) Vang
  3) Spin pole topping lift/staysail/storm jib halyard (3/4 height on the mast, 
and there is a narrow reaching staysail)

  4) Primary Spinnaker halyard


  This leaves:


  5) Primary Genoa halyard
  6) Secondary Genoa halyard
  7) Secondary Spinnaker halyard
  For the cabin top 18's near the mast and finally,



  8) Spin pole slide uphaul
  8) Spin pole slide downhaul 
  For the mast and cabin top 10s, respectively.


  This is not the current arrangement. Does what I propose make sense? Should I 
choose differently? 

  Damn, that's a lot of lines! Do I really need to lube all 12 winches every 
year???!!! What have I gotten myself into????



  Dan Sheer
  Pegathy LF38
  Rock Creek off the Patapsco





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