Gary,
Thanks for the perspective.
I figure I'll race spin with a crew of five (6 if I'm lucky) and cruise with a
crew of 2. For racing, one guy on the foredeck and 4/5 in the cockpit. The
cockpit is large enough for 5 easily, I think. It's a T, and one guy's behind
the wheel.
Since the the Jenny is roller furling, I don't expect that the halyard will be
adjusted much, and that can be handled by the foredeck man, who will also be
responsible for managing the spin and staysail, including spin jibes and the
mast end of the pole, and for helping tack the jenny. The spare jenny and spin
halyards are basically never used (my furler is single slot). Having the main
halyard and vang back at the cockpit is essential for 2 person cruising or
singlehanding (I do that sometimes).
I'm thinking that the pole topping lift/staysail halyard will be used while the
foredeckman is otherwise occupied. Is that true? I think it's good to have the
stormsail halyard (the same line as the topping lift) aft on principle.
Does that make sense?
Dan Sheer
Pegathy LF38
Rock Creek off the Patapsco
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Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 17:46:59 -0400
From: "Gary Nylander" <[email protected]>
To: "Daniel Sheer" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Stus-List What to lead aft
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Dan, some questions to ask as you are deciding.... are you setting this up to
race? how many crew? where will they be?
I
made a bit of a mistake in bring all my lines except the outhaul and
reef back to the cockpit (don't have quite as many as you as it's only a
30). Now, I have too many people and lines and elbows in the cockpit -
and on a 30, that's too much weight in the back.
I have the spin
halyard, two genoa halyards and the vang on the port side of the cabin
top and the pole topping lift, main halyard and pole downhaul on the
starboard. The traveler and main sheet are on the bridgedeck right aft
of the companionway. That is about three or four people in the space for
two. Then add the trimmers and driver and you get real busy.
A
41 foot boat I've raced on left the halyards, the outhaul, reefing and
cunningham on the mast and boom - that way some weight is forward and
less elbows in the cockpit.
Look at it that way and you may answer your own question.
If you are cruising and just want to be able to handle the chute - and have
less crew - different story.
Gary
St. Michaels MD
----- Original Message -----
From: Daniel Sheer
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 5:30 PM
Subject: Stus-List What to lead aft
Since I'm now setting up to fly a chute, I have to decide what lines to
bring aft and which to cleat off at the mast base. And I'm confused.
Actually I'm a citizen of that state.
This is what I'm thinking. Advice solicited.
The 2 reefing lines and the outhaul go to a Barient 10 winch on the
boom with both a clam cleat ahead of the winch (outhaul) and a horn
cleat behind (reefers). I don't intend to change that, at least not
immediately. Be nice to have them aft, the reefers at least. Maybe
someday.
The mainsheet, traveller lines, foreguy
(starbord) and Genoa roller furler line (port) must come aft. There's a
self tailing Bar 23 on the cabin top center at the cockpit for the main
sheet (companionway is offset to starboard on the LF38) and clam cleats
for the foreguy (on the starboard cabin side at the cockpit), roller
furler (on the outside of the port coaming - goes to the primary sheet
winch, a Bar 28) and traveller lines (cabin top, aft of the outboard
ends of the traveller).
Secondary sheet winches (Bar 22)
are forward of the primaries and will be used for the staysail sheets
and the spin sheet. The spin guy will go to the primary, I think.
Staysail and spin sheets go through 4 separate snatch blocks.
There are 4 cabin top winches (1 Bar 10s and 3 18s with individual
cleats near the mast, and one Bar 10 on the mast with a cleat.
I have 4 rope clutches sharing one secondary cabin top winch (Barient
22) to port at the cockpit. There's a single horn cleat between the
mainsheet winch and the 22 that is usually used to back up the clutch
for the main halyard. The candidate lines to bring aft to the rope
clutches are, in my order of preference:
1) Main halyard
2) Vang
3) Spin pole topping lift/staysail/storm jib halyard (3/4 height on the mast,
and there is a narrow reaching staysail)
4) Primary Spinnaker halyard
This leaves:
5) Primary Genoa halyard
6) Secondary Genoa halyard
7) Secondary Spinnaker halyard
For the cabin top 18's near the mast and finally,
8) Spin pole slide uphaul
8) Spin pole slide downhaul
For the mast and cabin top 10s, respectively.
This is not the current arrangement. Does what I propose make sense? Should I
choose differently?
Damn, that's a lot of lines! Do I really need to lube all 12 winches every
year???!!! What have I gotten myself into????
Dan Sheer
Pegathy LF38
Rock Creek off the Patapsco
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