Dan, You need 1 crew at the mast on the pole for the gybes and 1 on the bow. Trip the guy, raise the inboard end of the pole, drop the outboard end, make the new guy, lower the inboard end of the pole, raise the outboard. 1 crew will be way too slow, and he will be tired and unhappy.
Joel On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 6:50 PM, Daniel Sheer <[email protected]> wrote: > Gary, > Thanks for the perspective. > > I figure I'll race spin with a crew of five (6 if I'm lucky) and cruise > with a crew of 2. For racing, one guy on the foredeck and 4/5 in the > cockpit. The cockpit is large enough for 5 easily, I think. It's a T, and > one guy's behind the wheel. > > Since the the Jenny is roller furling, I don't expect that the halyard > will be adjusted much, and that can be handled by the foredeck man, who > will also be responsible for managing the spin and staysail, including spin > jibes and the mast end of the pole, and for helping tack the jenny. The > spare jenny and spin halyards are basically never used (my furler is single > slot). Having the main halyard and vang back at the cockpit is essential > for 2 person cruising or singlehanding (I do that sometimes). > > I'm thinking that the pole topping lift/staysail halyard will be used > while the foredeckman is otherwise occupied. Is that true? I think it's > good to have the stormsail halyard (the same line as the topping lift) aft > on principle. > > Does that make sense? > > Dan Sheer > Pegathy LF38 > Rock Creek off the Patapsco > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 17:46:59 -0400 > From: "Gary Nylander" <[email protected]> > To: "Daniel Sheer" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Stus-List What to lead aft > Message-ID: <481BA950DEFF42ED836D10E966EC30C9@GaryPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Dan, some questions to ask as you are deciding.... are you setting this up > to race? how many crew? where will they be? > > I made a bit of a mistake in bring all my lines except the outhaul and > reef back to the cockpit (don't have quite as many as you as it's only a > 30). Now, I have too many people and lines and elbows in the cockpit - and > on a 30, that's too much weight in the back. > > I have the spin halyard, two genoa halyards and the vang on the port side > of the cabin top and the pole topping lift, main halyard and pole downhaul > on the starboard. The traveler and main sheet are on the bridgedeck right > aft of the companionway. That is about three or four people in the space > for two. Then add the trimmers and driver and you get real busy. > > A 41 foot boat I've raced on left the halyards, the outhaul, reefing and > cunningham on the mast and boom - that way some weight is forward and less > elbows in the cockpit. > > Look at it that way and you may answer your own question. > > If you are cruising and just want to be able to handle the chute - and > have less crew - different story. > > Gary > St. Michaels MD > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Daniel Sheer > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 5:30 PM > Subject: Stus-List What to lead aft > > > Since I'm now setting up to fly a chute, I have to decide what lines to > bring aft and which to cleat off at the mast base. And I'm confused. > Actually I'm a citizen of that state. > > > This is what I'm thinking. Advice solicited. > > > > The 2 reefing lines and the outhaul go to a Barient 10 winch on the boom > with both a clam cleat ahead of the winch (outhaul) and a horn cleat behind > (reefers). I don't intend to change that, at least not immediately. Be nice > to have them aft, the reefers at least. Maybe someday. > > > > The mainsheet, traveller lines, foreguy (starbord) and Genoa roller > furler line (port) must come aft. There's a self tailing Bar 23 on the > cabin top center at the cockpit for the main sheet (companionway is offset > to starboard on the LF38) and clam cleats for the foreguy (on the starboard > cabin side at the cockpit), roller furler (on the outside of the port > coaming - goes to the primary sheet winch, a Bar 28) and traveller lines > (cabin top, aft of the outboard ends of the traveller). > > > Secondary sheet winches (Bar 22) are forward of the primaries and will > be used for the staysail sheets and the spin sheet. The spin guy will go to > the primary, I think. Staysail and spin sheets go through 4 separate snatch > blocks. > > > > There are 4 cabin top winches (1 Bar 10s and 3 18s with individual > cleats near the mast, and one Bar 10 on the mast with a cleat. > > > I have 4 rope clutches sharing one secondary cabin top winch (Barient > 22) to port at the cockpit. There's a single horn cleat between the > mainsheet winch and the 22 that is usually used to back up the clutch for > the main halyard. The candidate lines to bring aft to the rope clutches > are, in my order of preference: > > > > 1) Main halyard > > 2) Vang > 3) Spin pole topping lift/staysail/storm jib halyard (3/4 height on the > mast, and there is a narrow reaching staysail) > > 4) Primary Spinnaker halyard > > > This leaves: > > > 5) Primary Genoa halyard > 6) Secondary Genoa halyard > 7) Secondary Spinnaker halyard > For the cabin top 18's near the mast and finally, > > > > 8) Spin pole slide uphaul > 8) Spin pole slide downhaul > For the mast and cabin top 10s, respectively. > > > This is not the current arrangement. Does what I propose make sense? > Should I choose differently? > > Damn, that's a lot of lines! Do I really need to lube all 12 winches > every year???!!! What have I gotten myself into???? > > > > Dan Sheer > Pegathy LF38 > Rock Creek off the Patapsco > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > [email protected] > > -- Joel 301 541 8551
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