Rick:

I suspect your friend was caught in a government snafu. Most states, like Florida, reject the notion that you don't have to register your boat locally if it is documented. So they demand that the boat be registered somewhere if it is passing through. Being local officials, they wouldn't be aware that the situation was different in North Carolina.

Jack Brennan
Former C&C 25
Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30
Tierra Verde, Fl.



-----Original Message----- From: Rick Brass
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 10:15 PM
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Subject: Re: Stus-List newly documented vessel

I have not had personal experience with the process in Florida, so I believe what you say in the gist of the law and the way it is supposed to be applied. BUT...

One of the principal drivers for my knowledge of the law in North Carolina is my ongoing quest to get my documented boat registered in North Carolina before a planned trip to Florida in the winter of 2012-2013. The cruiser's forums were rife with outrage over the actions of what were referred to as the Florida Marine Nazis in the area of the ICW near Georgia.

A friend of mine who has lived on his boat for 10 years and usually winters in the Bahamas was livid when he got home last year with his boat sporting new Florida registration numbers. The boat was documented (which it is supposed to be if you travel internationally) and at the time North Carolina would not title or register a documents vessel. (The law changed last July to no title, but the boat must be registered. The registration fees are earmarked for dredging. YEAH!)

My friend was ticketed, since his boat needed to be registered in Florida as it was not registered in his home state. The fine was $250. And when he went to get the boat registered in Florida he discovered the cost to register if you are not a Florida resident was another $250. And they told him to put the numbers on the boat.

Actually it wouldn't surprise me if the information he got about the numbers was wrong. When I finally got my NC registration for Imzadi last July, the folks at the DNR told me I had to show the numbers. A friend who is office manager at at a local boat dealership said they had been told that only the sticker is needed and it could be on the starboard side of the mast. When I asked a contact who is actually a fish & wildlife officer, he said the actual rule is to display just the sticker near the starboard bow, numbers are optional, and other locations for the sticker can get you a ticket.

Personally, I like Canadians and even most New Yorkers. It's public officials that are on my list.

Rick

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On Apr 29, 2014, at 21:28, "Jack Brennan" <[email protected]> wrote:

Rick:

Florida doesn't require that a registration number be displayed on documented vessels. You just pay for a sticker and place it on a port-side portlight. This applies to any vessel that spends more than a month or so in the state, regardless of where it is titled.

One downside to documentation is that you aren't eligible for the boat to be classified as an antique vessel, which would reduce my annual fee from somewhere around $125 to a couple of dollars. Only boats titled in Florida are eligible for that. But it is a bear to move from documented to state titled.

Boats qualify, if I remember correctly, when they are more than 30 years old and have the original engine.


Jack Brennan
Former C&C 25
Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30
Tierra Verde, Fl.

-----Original Message----- From: Rick Brass
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 8:08 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Stus-List newly documented vessel

You'll need to ask the state. Each one seems to do it differently. In North Carolina you need to get a state registration number, but do not need to actually show the numbers - just the state sticker near the starboard bow. I can't recall the state, but at least one requires you show the state number even if documented. And Florida requires that you obtain a Florida registration and display the Florida number even if documented and your home state does not register documented vessels (which was the case here in NC until lazy July).

There is no uniform system. Call the state.

Rick

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On Apr 29, 2014, at 18:38, Joel Aronson <[email protected]> wrote:

Just got my boat documented with the CG. Do I notify the state and remove the state registration numbers from the bow?

Joel
35/3
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