Being concise ...

The setup on the older C&Cs is fairly bad for bulk charging of a larger house 
battery bank.

1) Wiring

The path had the alternator output running the distance back to an ammeter on 
the instrument panel,
then back usually to the starter post, then possibly through a switch and to 
the battery. The wire gauge
is sufficient for topping off a battery at 10 - 15 amps, but considering that 
accurate bulk charging requires
a voltage accuracy at the battery terminals of usually +/- 0.1 volt there is 
too much voltage drop.

Workarounds - rewire and remove the ammeter, upgrade wire size, add a remote 
sensing regulator.

2) Alternator

Most are designed for short bulk charges and then topping off a battery. There 
is too little airflow to provide
proper cooling at sustained high output. Even the belt and bearing load becomes 
a problem when up sizing.

Workarounds - add a second purpose built alternator on a flat belt, use a 
regulator that has a remote temp
sensor for the alternator.

3) Mixed batteries

There is no single charging profile that works when you are trying to charge a 
barely discharged smaller
starting battery and a large fully discharged house battery in parallel.

Workaround - see solutions below. Note that a Voltage Sensitive Relay or Echo 
Charger can help a bit but
is not a solution.

4) Charge status

If your are running a load on the boat and using a smart regulator at the same 
time the regulator has a
difficult time figuring out what is going on. Consider a device that holds the 
voltage slightly higher for the
absorption stage, which is based on a set percentage of house battery capacity 
in amp hours. Maybe
with a 120 amp hour battery the regulator wants to see less than 8 amps ( all 
fictitious numbers ) before
it switches from the absorption stage. If the boat load is 6 amps the regulator 
is effectively going to stay
in the absorption stage too long, which may shorten the battery life.


Possible solution


I feel that 50 amps continuous from a alternator rated at 100 amps will match 
my needs and not overload
the belt system. So the max bulk charge for me is about 40 amps, which fits a 
newer AGM 120 amp hour battery.

The key to the setup is to use a DC - DC smart charger. This is an example of 
that genre of product:

http://promariner.com/products/marine-dc-to-dc-charging-systems/

What it does is allow a normal alternator to be set at a voltage which is safe 
long term for topping off a
battery. That same voltage would take way too long to fully recharge a large 
house bank. The DC - DC
charger accepts the alternator voltage ( maybe 13.4 volts ) and runs it through 
an DC - DC inverter to
raise the voltage up to 14.4 ( AGM ) 14.6 ( flooded ) and up to 40 amps. This 
reduces the bulk charging
time significantly and is under control of a smart charger. The starting 
battery will be left at 13.4 volts
to be topped off safely and not overcharged.

Note - the two battery banks ( or more - you could run two DC -DC charges at 
the same time if the
alternator was up to it ) need to be isolated, ie not on "both" on a battery 
switch and the house load
if any should not be on the battery bank being charged. With the engine running 
the load could be switched
to the starter battery.

Even at 40 amps the charger supplies temp sensing inputs for both the battery 
and alternator.

No affiliation with the manufacture, and not trying to recommend a product. 
Just using it as an example
of a smart DC - DC charging system that can be used underway.

For more information there is a link to the manual from the same URL.

Online pricing:

http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|328|2289948|2289953&id=764855



At least one solution to look at.


Michael Brown
Windburn
C&C 30-1





  

   
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