Great video.  I have a 27 V and it is nice to see one sailed so well.  I wish I 
had a crew that could tack that smoothly.  What boat finished first?   What do 
you use for a main sail.  I will probably get one next season.  I just added a 
Garhauer rigid vang.  Jerry J&J C&C 27 v.    

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> On Jul 14, 2014, at 2:20 PM, Brent Driedger via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> We have a Laser 28 in our harbour. She's gotta be the fastest well equipped 
> cruising 28 foot boat ever!
> Good luck to your son. 
> 
> Brent D
> 27-5
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 14, 2014, at 8:41 AM, Chris Price via CnC-List 
>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Chuck, many of the anchorages we visit will accommodate 6'3". While you may 
>> not be able to go all the way into Swan Creek, you can certainly enter and 
>> pick up a mooring at Swan Creek Marina. Corsica is great and Reed Creek next 
>> door is challenging whether you draw 5'3" or 6'3". We overnighted in Harris 
>> Creek last Sunday off the Choptank, but you'd need to sail around 
>> Blackwalnut Point since Knapp's Narrows has shoaled.Our depth sounder is 
>> still not working under power, despite trying Bill Bina's suggestion of 
>> turning on incandescent lights, so any mooring is a challenge for us! I 
>> guess I'm just saying don't totally exclude the Easter Shore.
>> 
>> By the way, just got back yesterday from picking up a nice Laser 28 from Des 
>> Moines, IA with my son. He's taking it to Somers Point today to sail in 
>> Atlantic City Race Week. He should do well, but it means one less J24 to 
>> race.
>> 
>> Chris Price
>> Pradel
>> 35 Mk I
>> 
>> 
>> From: "Chuck S via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> To: "Joe Della Barba" <j...@dellabarba.com>, "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" 
>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 6:20:09 PM
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Shallows and deep draft
>> 
>> Gotta visit Corsica River one of these weekends.
>> My crew seems more focused on anchoring out, swims, kayaking, and 
>> sightseeing close to Broad Creek.
>> We will explore more as we get used to this new to us way of cruising.
>> 
>> 
>> Chuck
>> Resolute
>> 1990 C&C 34R
>> Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md
>> 
>> From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> To: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 5:41:10 PM
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Shallows and deep draft
>> 
>> Coquina was not purchased because we needed the shallow draft, she was 
>> purchased because the previous owners moved to Barnaget Bay and had only 
>> about 4 feet at their dock. They bought a centerboard C&C, a Corvette IIRC. 
>> Coquina spent 12 years on the Magothy and then another 12 on the Severn 
>> before coming to the Shore. Your boat would be able to use our marina about 
>> 2/3s of the time this year. I think anything except right at low tide would 
>> work. Some years when the dredging is late we cannot get out at normal low 
>> tide. This year it has to be a NorthWester to be too shallow. This year I 
>> can use Kent Narrows again. Last year anything over 4 feet was very risky.
>> OTOH 9 feet would be fine at my mooring, but that is a half hour drive 
>> upstream and then 12 miles back downstream to get back out.
>>  
>> Joe Della Barba
>> j...@dellabarba.com
>> Coquina C&C 35 MK I
>> From: Chuck S [mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net] 
>> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 4:11 PM
>> To: j...@dellabarba.com; CNC boat owners, cnc-list
>> Subject: Re: Shallows and deep draft
>>  
>> I agree Joe. 
>> That's why Magothy is heaven for my me and our 6'3" draft, most places 12 to 
>> 18 ft and from my perspective, my boat is fine, your side of the bay is too 
>> shallow for us.  Can't change that.  I respect your choice but prefer mine 
>> for me and not trying to convince anyone to change theirs.  It's good they 
>> make different flavors. 
>>  
>>  
>> Chuck
>> Resolute
>> 1990 C&C 34R
>> Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md
>>  
>> From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> To: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 11:02:19 AM
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats?
>>  
>> None of those boats could get close to my slip nor go many of the places I 
>> go. They would be aground in my slip, aground in the marina channel, aground 
>> in Swan Creek, aground in Kent Narrows, aground in Fog Cove, aground in 
>> Knapps Narrows, etc….
>> Joe Della Barba
>> j...@dellabarba.com
>>  
>> Coquina
>> C&C 35 MK I
>>  
>>  
>> From: Chuck S [mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net] 
>> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 10:39 AM
>> To: j...@dellabarba.com; CNC boat owners, cnc-list
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats?
>>  
>> FWIW, I notice deeper water exists on the Western Shore of the Chesapeake, 
>> while shallower waters are on the Eastern Shore.  A keel a foot deeper can 
>> lighten a 35ft boat by 1000 pounds which plays a bigger role in lighter 
>> winds, when racing.  Light displacement is not so important where it's windy 
>> or if you're motoring to gunkhole destinations more than sailing. 
>>  
>> A deep fin protects the rudder, is shorter and thinner, and when you run 
>> aground, you slimply motor back out or spin her off.  The old Navy Luders 
>> Yawls drew 8ft.  The newer Navy 44 by Pedrick draw 7.25'.  There are a few 
>> TP52s at Bert Jabin's yard that draw 10 or 12ft.  Just sayin.   
>>  
>> Chuck
>> Resolute
>> 1990 C&C 34R
>> Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md
>>  
>> From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> To: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 9:40:49 AM
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats?
>>  
>> 7 foot draft would make the boat totally useless to me. 6 feet would be 
>> marginal at best.
>> I knew someone with a deep draft 40 and they chain-sawed the bottom of the 
>> keel off and bolted on a bulb from Mars Metal to bring the weight back to 
>> spec. At least back then the cost of doing this was well made up by the 
>> increased value of the boat for the Chesapeake and Mars would give you some 
>> credit if you sent them the lead you removed.
>>  
>> Joe Della Barba
>> j...@dellabarba.com
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel 
>> Aronson via CnC-List
>> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 9:30 AM
>> To: Stevan Plavsa; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats?
>>  
>> Steve,
>>  
>> As much as I love my 35/3, the 40 is a lot more boat for less money!  I 
>> would not let another 6 inches of draft stop me unless I planned to cruise 
>> the Bahamas.
>>  
>> Joel
>>  
>> 
>> On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List 
>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> There was another 40 in CT that was asking 29k recently. Same tall rig and 
>> deep draft. It's gone. There are lots of these.
>>  
>> Steve
>> Suhana, C&C 32
>> Toronto
>>  
>>  
>> 
>> On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List 
>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> I sometimes pick up donated boats for the Chesapeake Bay Maritime Museum. 
>> Another volunteer and I just sailed an early '80's O'Day 30 across the Bay 
>> for the program. He was interested, because it has a centerboard and his 
>> mooring is in rather slim water.
>>  
>> His thoughts were: Old gear, old upholstery, only two self tailing winches, 
>> not four.. old instruments, etc..... the boat was attractive and will go for 
>> low dollars. He was counting up the dollars to make it perfect and decided 
>> he wanted a boat with fewer issues to deal with.
>>  
>> I think these boats sit around for a long time because there are few folks 
>> like many on this list who are knowledgeable enough to look through the 
>> small faults and make an offer. My friend is skilled, but still wanted the 
>> 'perfect' boat with few issues for low money. Maybe he didn't want to have 
>> another project?
>>  
>> On the first one, the hailing port is interesting, as the boat is now in 
>> Maryland. The engine is small and has a lot of hours (almost 2000?), no self 
>> tailing winches, old (really) Moor instruments (if it breaks, buy new).
>>  
>> The other one looks better, is a lot more money for an old boat - and seven 
>> feet is a non-starter around here.
>>  
>> Gary
>> still happy with the 30-1
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 4:55 PM
>> Subject: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats?
>>  
>> http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1974/C%26C-MK-II-2367894/Cambridge/MD/United-States
>>  
>> This looks like a nice MK II and has been for sale for a long time.
>> My guess is the sticking point is the engine. It has a Westebeke 4-60 
>> engine, which is a 15 HP diesel derived from a 984 cc MG Midget engine. I 
>> had an MG Midget and all I have to say to that is Yikes! It may run fine, 
>> but AFAIK parts are nonexistent for it, so when it breaks it is dead 
>> forever. Also 15 HP is not exactly overpowered for a 35 foot boat.
>>  
>> http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1979/C%26C-40-2647391/Branford/CT/United-States
>>  
>> The boat sounds and looks decent in the ad. Only things I can see is 
>> apparently there is no canvas and the 7 foot draft. That boat would be 
>> trapped in my slip except at high tide.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Joe Della Barba
>> Coquina
>> C&C 35 MK I
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