Fellow C&C'rs, I am in the market for a new suit of sails for my 1990 34+. I like what I have read about UK Tape Drive sails and was wondering if anyone has owned this brand and could give feedback?
Also I would consider a used set of racing sails if anyone has a set for this particular model. Stephen Thorne C&C 34+ Deja Vu On Jul 27, 2014, at 8:45 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: > Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to > cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. remove head sink on c n c 32? (McElwreath, Daniel) > 2. tight reaching (Pete Shelquist) > 3. Re: tight reaching (Josh Muckley) > 4. Re: tight reaching (Chuck S) > 5. Re: tight reaching (cenel...@aol.com) > 6. Re: tight reaching (Andrew Burton) > 7. Re: Stus-Maine Cruise (Richard N. Bush) > 8. Re: Stus-Maine Cruise (davidrisch75) > 9. Re: tight reaching (Dennis C.) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 16:23:43 +0000 > From: "McElwreath, Daniel" <mcelwrea...@wpunj.edu> > To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Stus-List remove head sink on c n c 32? > Message-ID: > <74ac7c951a8a93469c6e9f035d118c56223e6...@exchmbx1.unv.campus.wpunj.edu> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Before going in the water this Spring I replaced all the waste hose and ran > thru the vanity in head. This week I had to rebuild the par shower drain > pump so I had to remove that. My question: Can the head sink be removed to > allow access? Working thru the small vanity door is an absolute BEAR. I > have been reluctant to try and put the pump back, only because it is such a > pain. I was even thinking of cutting the vanity wall out, including the > little door, and then reglassing when finished. But I know what that would > look like. Thanks for any advice. Dan Mc on Tively II in City Island, NY > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140727/fd11f65a/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 12:01:51 -0500 > From: "Pete Shelquist" <pete.shelqu...@comcast.net> > To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Stus-List tight reaching > Message-ID: <002201cfa9bc$779960c0$66cc2240$@shelqu...@comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I recently had a mid-distance race in which a majority of the race was tight > reaching in flat water, 10-15 breeze. We had our heavy #1 up. A number of > boats (C&C39, C&C38, Sabre 36, Tarten Ten) worked up on us pretty well in > those conditions. I obviously need to trim the sails differently and am > looking for suggestions. > > > > We mostly eased the sheet and moved the car forward, but we did try barber > hauling. We did not try bringing the clew right out to the toe rail. > > > > Any thoughts or suggestions is appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Pete > > 1984 C&C 37 > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140727/ffcfba52/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 13:44:34 -0400 > From: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com> > To: "C&C List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>, Pete Shelquist > <pete.shelqu...@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: Stus-List tight reaching > Message-ID: > <CA+zaCRBNo1O5vTdN=fcyljdw-ahpkam9gyu_rjsrbm0-jhm...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > How much backstay? How much babystay? How tight was the outhaul and > halyards? Speed bubble in the main? How much heel? How much rudder? How > much weight on board? Crew hiking out? When was the bottom last cleaned? > What type of paint? You might need to come off the wind just a few degrees > and/or let the sails breath just a bit. > > At 10-15 kts you should have been able to reach hull speed...~6-7kts. If > not then something was wrong. You might even want to consider a #2 if you > were being blown over too much. > > As you can see there is just no simple answer. Keep racing and you'll > learn all of those minute characteristics. > > Happy to discuss off list. > > Josh Muckley > S/V Sea Hawk > 1989 C&C 37+ > Solomons, MD > On Jul 27, 2014 1:02 PM, "Pete Shelquist via CnC-List" < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> I recently had a mid-distance race in which a majority of the race was >> tight reaching in flat water, 10-15 breeze. We had our heavy #1 up. A >> number of boats (C&C39, C&C38, Sabre 36, Tarten Ten) worked up on us pretty >> well in those conditions. I obviously need to trim the sails differently >> and am looking for suggestions. >> >> >> >> We mostly eased the sheet and moved the car forward, but we did try barber >> hauling. We did not try bringing the clew right out to the toe rail. >> >> >> >> Any thoughts or suggestions is appreciated. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Pete >> >> 1984 C&C 37 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of >> page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140727/70995b98/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 19:10:39 +0000 (UTC) > From: Chuck S <cscheaf...@comcast.net> > To: Pete Shelquist <pete.shelqu...@comcast.net>, "CNC boat owners, > cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List tight reaching > Message-ID: > <1220713319.33262353.1406488239329.javamail.r...@comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Here are a few things to consider: > Examine the PHRF Ratings of your competition to see if they are simply faster > designs. http://www.phrfne.org/page/567 > Using New England ratings, your boat, a C&C 37 (1984) rates 105 > C&C 39, PHRF 102 > C&C 38, PHRF 102 > Sabre 36, PHRF 117 > Tarten Ten, PHRF 126 > You may have trouble beating the bigger boats, but you should stay ahead of > the Tarten 10 and the Sabre 36? If the smaller boats are catching you, it may > be due to their boat bottoms being smoother (burnished Baltiplate) or better > sails? > > I find 12 knots is the threshold when all boats achieve hullspeed in all > directions and many boats reach faster than their PHRF ratings would imply. > At 15 knots, older sails that can't be flattened, start creating more drag > but are less critical in reaching mode. > > > Barber hauling to the toe rail when reaching can open the slot and also > steady the clew so the sail flaps less, maintaining pressure and power in the > sail. I typically rig a snatchblock on the toerail and run a 30' length of > 5/16" line thru it with a caribiner on one end. The caribiner gets clipped to > the clew when used and clipped to the lifeline when not needed. The tail is > brought back to whichever winch is convenient. I rig these before leaving the > dock. You have to get your crew to see some success with the rig before they > will accept rigging them. To pull the sail out to the toerail, I clip on the > caribiner thru the clew and tension the line, easing the sheet, until I like > the shape. Sometimes I keep the tension on both or the sheet is eased > completely and the toe rail line takes the whole strain. The sheets remain > tied to the clew, and the barberhauler needs to be unclipped before tacking, > and some crew do not like having to remember this task. > > Trimming the main to control heel : Your boat has a very short boom and I > wouldn't presume to know how to trim it for close reaching but would think it > plays a role in controlling heel, while your genoa is the real powerhouse? > The telltales on the main's leech should be streaming. The main trimmer may > have to play the traveller constantly to maintain heel and speed in gusts? > > Boats with straighter waterlines like Tarten 10 seem faster when reaching > than boats with curved waterlines, IOR shape. Our boat is very different, but > I notice we excel in the lighter stuff 8 to 10 knots, especially upwind. Flat > water and 6 knots, we can generate our own wind when pointing while other > boats struggle. Clean bottom and good sails make a difference in these > conditions. > > Chuck > Resolute > 1990 C&C 34R > Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > To: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 1:01:51 PM > Subject: Stus-List tight reaching > > > > I recently had a mid-distance race in which a majority of the race was tight > reaching in flat water, 10-15 breeze. We had our heavy #1 up. A number of > boats (C&C39, C&C38, Sabre 36, Tarten Ten) worked up on us pretty well in > those conditions. I obviously need to trim the sails differently and am > looking for suggestions. > > > > We mostly eased the sheet and moved the car forward, but we did try barber > hauling. We did not try bringing the clew right out to the toe rail. > > > > Any thoughts or suggestions is appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Pete > > 1984 C&C 37 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140727/e3e70014/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 16:31:11 -0400 (EDT) > From: cenel...@aol.com > To: pete.shelqu...@comcast.net, cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List tight reaching > Message-ID: <8d177f0d6a7fcb7-1ee0-38...@webmail-m210.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > One idea not mentioned yet, perhaps because it is too obvious, is constant > headsail adjustment, assuming the main is set properly. > > > When I am not close-hauled (upwind or reaching), I steer a course angle or > position on the horizon and have the head sail trimmer > CONSTANTLY adjusting the headsail for good shape in the puffs and lulls, tell > tales streaming, etc. using the boat speed as a measure of his success. > > > > The headsail trimmer is really driving the boat with adjustments for the > puffs and lulls while the helmsman keeps the boat > going in a fixed direction. In 10-15 we would have our 'heavy #1' carbon up, > board fully down and be shooting for our hull speed of ~ 7+ knots. > > > > Close reaching is definitely not a set it and forget it racing mode. For long > races, we have to switch the trimmer because the concentration and winch > trimming involved can be exhausting. > > > FWIW > > > Charlie Nelson > 1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb > > > > > > cenel...@aol.com > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pete Shelquist via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Sent: Sun, Jul 27, 2014 1:02 pm > Subject: Stus-List tight reaching > > > > I recently had a mid-distance race in which a majority of the race was tight > reaching in flat water, 10-15 breeze. We had our heavy #1 up. A number of > boats (C&C39, C&C38, Sabre 36, Tarten Ten) worked up on us pretty well in > those conditions. I obviously need to trim the sails differently and am > looking for suggestions. > > We mostly eased the sheet and moved the car forward, but we did try barber > hauling. We did not try bringing the clew right out to the toe rail. > > Any thoughts or suggestions is appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Pete > 1984 C&C 37 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140727/9cd3e98e/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 16:42:25 -0400 > From: Andrew Burton <a.burton.sai...@gmail.com> > To: "cenel...@aol.com" <cenel...@aol.com>, "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List tight reaching > Message-ID: <b58c6bc1-2b1e-423c-8c77-a790a56f2...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Certainly move the lead all the way outboard if you can still trim the sail > with it there. You'll open up the slot and the boat will stand up better. > I think I'd be inclined to err on the side of too much sail on a reach in > order to power through the lulls. > Ease the back stay a bit, which also opens the slot, and ease the jib halyard > to keep the draft far enough aft when the headstay is slack. > Maybe a little less vang on the main to match the twist in the genoa and keep > the telltales flying. Then have your crew hike hard and trim the sails > constantly while you drive arrow-straight. > > Andy > Peregrine > C&C 40 > (currently Portland Maine beginning a cruise) > > Andrew Burton > 61 W Narragansett > Newport, RI > USA 02840 > > http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ > +401 965-5260 > >> On Jul 27, 2014, at 16:31, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List >> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >> One idea not mentioned yet, perhaps because it is too obvious, is constant >> headsail adjustment, assuming the main is set properly. >> >> When I am not close-hauled (upwind or reaching), I steer a course angle or >> position on the horizon and have the head sail trimmer >> CONSTANTLY adjusting the headsail for good shape in the puffs and lulls, >> tell tales streaming, etc. using the boat speed as a measure of his success. >> >> The headsail trimmer is really driving the boat with adjustments for the >> puffs and lulls while the helmsman keeps the boat >> going in a fixed direction. In 10-15 we would have our 'heavy #1' carbon up, >> board fully down and be shooting for our hull speed of ~ 7+ knots. >> >> Close reaching is definitely not a set it and forget it racing mode. For >> long races, we have to switch the trimmer because the concentration and >> winch trimming involved can be exhausting. >> >> FWIW >> >> Charlie Nelson >> 1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb >> >> >> >> cenel...@aol.com >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Pete Shelquist via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> Sent: Sun, Jul 27, 2014 1:02 pm >> Subject: Stus-List tight reaching >> >> I recently had a mid-distance race in which a majority of the race was tight >> reaching in flat water, 10-15 breeze. We had our heavy #1 up. A number of >> boats (C&C39, C&C38, Sabre 36, Tarten Ten) worked up on us pretty well in >> those conditions. I obviously need to trim the sails differently and am >> looking for suggestions. >> >> We mostly eased the sheet and moved the car forward, but we did try barber >> hauling. We did not try bringing the clew right out to the toe rail. >> >> Any thoughts or suggestions is appreciated. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Pete >> 1984 C&C 37 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of >> page >> at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of >> page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140727/13444bb2/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 17:27:58 -0400 (EDT) > From: "Richard N. Bush" <bushma...@aol.com> > To: a.burton.sai...@gmail.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus-Maine Cruise > Message-ID: <8d177f8c53fb553-9e8-a...@webmail-va096.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > Andy, will you be sending a blog or other info about your cruise? (the answer > should be yes) thanks! > > > Richard > 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River Mile 584 RBD; > > > Richard N. Bush > 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine > Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 > 502-584-7255 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > To: cenelson <cenel...@aol.com>; cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Sent: Sun, Jul 27, 2014 4:44 pm > Subject: Re: Stus-List tight reaching > > > > Certainly move the lead all the way outboard if you can still trim the sail > with it there. You'll open up the slot and the boat will stand up better. > I think I'd be inclined to err on the side of too much sail on a reach in > order to power through the lulls. > Ease the back stay a bit, which also opens the slot, and ease the jib halyard > to keep the draft far enough aft when the headstay is slack. > Maybe a little less vang on the main to match the twist in the genoa and keep > the telltales flying. Then have your crew hike hard and trim the sails > constantly while you drive arrow-straight. > > > Andy > Peregrine > C&C 40 > (currently Portland Maine beginning a cruise) > > Andrew Burton > 61 W Narragansett > Newport, RI > USA 02840 > > > http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ > +401 965-5260 > > > On Jul 27, 2014, at 16:31, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > > > One idea not mentioned yet, perhaps because it is too obvious, is constant > headsail adjustment, assuming the main is set properly. > > > When I am not close-hauled (upwind or reaching), I steer a course angle or > position on the horizon and have the head sail trimmer > CONSTANTLY adjusting the headsail for good shape in the puffs and lulls, tell > tales streaming, etc. using the boat speed as a measure of his success. > > > > The headsail trimmer is really driving the boat with adjustments for the > puffs and lulls while the helmsman keeps the boat > going in a fixed direction. In 10-15 we would have our 'heavy #1' carbon up, > board fully down and be shooting for our hull speed of ~ 7+ knots. > > > > Close reaching is definitely not a set it and forget it racing mode. For long > races, we have to switch the trimmer because the concentration and winch > trimming involved can be exhausting. > > > FWIW > > > Charlie Nelson > 1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb > > > > > > cenel...@aol.com > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pete Shelquist via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Sent: Sun, Jul 27, 2014 1:02 pm > Subject: Stus-List tight reaching > > > > I recently had a mid-distance race in which a majority of the race was tight > reaching in flat water, 10-15 breeze. We had our heavy #1 up. A number of > boats (C&C39, C&C38, Sabre 36, Tarten Ten) worked up on us pretty well in > those conditions. I obviously need to trim the sails differently and am > looking for suggestions. > > We mostly eased the sheet and moved the car forward, but we did try barber > hauling. We did not try bringing the clew right out to the toe rail. > > Any thoughts or suggestions is appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Pete > 1984 C&C 37 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140727/203b7e7e/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 19:55:38 -0400 > From: davidrisch75 <davidrisc...@msn.com> > To: "Richard N. Bush" <bushma...@aol.com>, > <a.burton.sai...@gmail.com>, <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus-Maine Cruise > Message-ID: <blu404-eas157106da5b832426ab51d9fda...@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > As a kid I learned, and still adhere to the rule that when sheets are cracked > and racing never cleat sheets. And when in doubt let it out...I find 80% of > folks overtrim. > > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone > > <div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: "Richard N. Bush via > CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> </div><div>Date:07/27/2014 5:28 PM > (GMT-05:00) </div><div>To: a.burton.sai...@gmail.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com > </div><div>Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus-Maine Cruise </div><div> > </div> > > Andy, will you be sending a blog or other info about your cruise? (the answer > should be yes) thanks! > > > Richard > 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River Mile 584 RBD; > > > Richard N. Bush > 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine > Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 > 502-584-7255 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > To: cenelson <cenel...@aol.com>; cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Sent: Sun, Jul 27, 2014 4:44 pm > Subject: Re: Stus-List tight reaching > > > > Certainly move the lead all the way outboard if you can still trim the sail > with it there. You'll open up the slot and the boat will stand up better. > I think I'd be inclined to err on the side of too much sail on a reach in > order to power through the lulls. > Ease the back stay a bit, which also opens the slot, and ease the jib halyard > to keep the draft far enough aft when the headstay is slack. > Maybe a little less vang on the main to match the twist in the genoa and keep > the telltales flying. Then have your crew hike hard and trim the sails > constantly while you drive arrow-straight. > > > Andy > Peregrine > C&C 40 > (currently Portland Maine beginning a cruise) > > Andrew Burton > 61 W Narragansett > Newport, RI > USA 02840 > > > http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ > +401 965-5260 > > > On Jul 27, 2014, at 16:31, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > > > One idea not mentioned yet, perhaps because it is too obvious, is constant > headsail adjustment, assuming the main is set properly. > > > When I am not close-hauled (upwind or reaching), I steer a course angle or > position on the horizon and have the head sail trimmer > CONSTANTLY adjusting the headsail for good shape in the puffs and lulls, tell > tales streaming, etc. using the boat speed as a measure of his success. > > > > The headsail trimmer is really driving the boat with adjustments for the > puffs and lulls while the helmsman keeps the boat > going in a fixed direction. In 10-15 we would have our 'heavy #1' carbon up, > board fully down and be shooting for our hull speed of ~ 7+ knots. > > > > Close reaching is definitely not a set it and forget it racing mode. For long > races, we have to switch the trimmer because the concentration and winch > trimming involved can be exhausting. > > > FWIW > > > Charlie Nelson > 1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb > > > > > > cenel...@aol.com > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pete Shelquist via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Sent: Sun, Jul 27, 2014 1:02 pm > Subject: Stus-List tight reaching > > > > I recently had a mid-distance race in which a majority of the race was tight > reaching in flat water, 10-15 breeze. We had our heavy #1 up. A number of > boats (C&C39, C&C38, Sabre 36, Tarten Ten) worked up on us pretty well in > those conditions. I obviously need to trim the sails differently and am > looking for suggestions. > > We mostly eased the sheet and moved the car forward, but we did try barber > hauling. We did not try bringing the clew right out to the toe rail. > > Any thoughts or suggestions is appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Pete > 1984 C&C 37 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140727/6c03128d/attachment-0001.html> > -------------- next part -------------- > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 19:45:13 -0500 > From: "Dennis C." <capt...@gmail.com> > To: Pete Shelquist <pete.shelqu...@comcast.net>, CnClist > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List tight reaching > Message-ID: > <canir+ytrmyzxutmszkk2yfhd24ohauay2-ewbpncqhe0izo...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Actually, you might mean you tried outboard sheeting, not a Barber hauler. > On Touche' we go to outboard sheeting very quickly to open the slot. > > As soon as the headsail clew lifts above the lifelines and the jibsheet > touches the lifelines, we're rigging a snatch block to the toe rail and > attaching the outboard sheet. Our outboard sheet has a snapshackle for > easy attachment to and release from the headsail clew. We lead it to our > secondary winches. We leave the jibsheet inactive on the primaries ready > to go if we need to trim in to go up. > > We locate the snatch block slightly forward of the jib car. > > We ease luff tensions to move drafts aft. Set the vang to keep the top > batten parallel to centerline. Leech tell tales should be streaming aft. > > In the heavier air conditions you described, I'd be thinking about trimming > the main with the vang to maintain heel. Twist off the top to keep the > boat on its feet and the keel lifting. Play the traveler if you experience > weather helm. > > Dennis C. > Touche' 35-1 #83 > Mandeville, LA > > > On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Pete Shelquist via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> I recently had a mid-distance race in which a majority of the race was >> tight reaching in flat water, 10-15 breeze. We had our heavy #1 up. A >> number of boats (C&C39, C&C38, Sabre 36, Tarten Ten) worked up on us pretty >> well in those conditions. I obviously need to trim the sails differently >> and am looking for suggestions. >> >> >> >> We mostly eased the sheet and moved the car forward, but we did try barber >> hauling. We did not try bringing the clew right out to the toe rail. >> >> >> >> Any thoughts or suggestions is appreciated. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Pete >> >> 1984 C&C 37 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of >> page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140727/931c0642/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > CnC-List mailing list > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > ------------------------------ > > End of CnC-List Digest, Vol 102, Issue 68 > ***************************************** _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
