Richard,

That's exactly the reason I stick to using one product designed and highly
rated as a lubricity additive.  I then rely on turning over the fuel within
6 months to avoid growth.  IMO Engines are designed to burn diesel not a
chemical cocktail.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Oct 15, 2015 8:05 AM, "Richard N. Bush via CnC-List" <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> OK upon reading  the several responses; if Stanadyne is the manufacturers
> recommendation, and others like Seafoam or Biobor; my question is; are
> these products mutually exclusive? Or can they be mixed together? Should
> one red over the other? Thanks...
>
> Richard
> 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 584
>
>
> Richard N. Bush
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
> 502-584-7255
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Baker via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Cc: Paul Baker <pjbake...@hotmail.com>
> Sent: Thu, Oct 15, 2015 1:27 am
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Deisel Fuel Additives?
>
> I get seafoam at Lordco.
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 19:17:57 -0700
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Deisel Fuel Additives?
> From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> CC: russ...@telus.net
>
>
> Seafoam reminds me of the Marvel Mystery Oil claims. I can't find MMO at
> Canadian tire any more, used it in the A4 (oil & gas) regularly.
>
>         Cheers, Russ
>         *Sweet *35 mk-1
>
> At 06:47 PM 13/10/2015, you wrote:
>
> Check this out:
>
> http://seafoamsales.com/sea-foam-motor-treatment/
>
>
>
> Rob Abbott
> AZURA
> C&C 32 - 84
> Halifax, N.S.
>
> On 2015-10-13 10:23 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List wrote:
>
> I suspect most old car guys are familiar with Seafoam. Though I can't
> recall exactly what is in it. I've always used it as an additive for
> gasoline engines - boat fuel, mower fuel, oil mix for power tools and the
> outboard. I think of it as a better alternative to Stabil.
>
> Can't say as I've ever thought about it as Diesel additive, or added it to
> engine oil. Might be a good thing to check out.
>
> Rick Brass
> Washington, NC
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Oct 13, 2015, at 20:43, Chuck S via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Rick,
> A friend who works on cars and has a 32 foot sailboat for 25 years that
> looks better than new, suggested I use *SeaFoam *in both fuel and engine
> oil.  It's inexpensive and seems to make starting much easier, so I've been
> using that for the last 8 years.  I use Bio-Flo Jr when I top off the tank
> for winter.  Any thoughts on SeaFoam?
>
> Chuck
> Resolute
> 1990 C&C 34R
> Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Rick Brass via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com >
> *To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc: *"Rick Brass" <rickbr...@earthlink.net >
> *Sent: *Monday, October 12, 2015 8:52:03 PM
> *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Deisel Fuel Additives?
>
> All diesel is made to the same set of standards. The red stuff just has a
> dye  in it to indicate that the highway fuel tax has not been paid.
>
>
>
> When your engine was built, diesel fuel had 5000 parts per million of
> Sulphur content. The Sulphur was a significant factor in lubricating the
> injection pump, injectors, etc.
>
>
>
> In the mid to late 90s, in anticipation of the Tier 2 emissions standards,
> Low Sulphur diesel became mandatory. Sulphur content was reduced to 500
> PPM, and lubricity additives were incorporated in the fuel.
>
>
>
> In the middle of the last decade, in anticipation of Tier 3 emission
> standards, Ultra Low Sulphur diesel became mandatory. Sulphur content on
> current fuel is 15 PPM. A new Tier 3 engine is designed to run on ULS fuel,
> just like a new gas engine is designed for ethanol.
>
>
>
> Yanmar, Cummins, and Perkins (the 3 brands of diesels I used to teach
> technicians about) all recommend that you add a lubricity additive to your
> fuel if your engine was built before Tier 3 and ULS diesel became the norm.
> For our size engines that means about 2010 (1 year later in Canada). The
> service bulletins from Yanmar and Cummins (which I unfortunately lost when
> the laptop’s hard drive went up in smoke) both specifically recommend the
> additive from Stanadyne.
>
>
>
> Even though my Universal M35B is a Tier 3 version, I still add Standyne
> lubricity additive (although I do occasional use a product from Lucas). It
> can’t hurt.
>
>
>
> I also put BioBor JR in the fuel as an algaecide and try to keep my tank
> full during winter storage. As Josh said, the nasties live in the water in
> the tank and eat the diesel (don’t get me started on bio-diesel). An
> algaecide and reducing the chances of condensation in the tank are good
> policy for avoiding fuel filter problems.
>
>
>
> I’ve used about 2 tanks of fuel this year, so I’m not concerned with the
> duel degrading in storage like you get with ethanol stored in a boat.
> Diesel can generally be stored for about two years without significant
> degradation.
>
>
>
> Rick Brass
>
> Washington, NC
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [ mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
> <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] *On Behalf Of *Richard N. Bush via
> CnC-List
> *Sent:* Monday, October 12, 2015 12:39 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Richard N. Bush <bushma...@aol.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Deisel Fuel Additives?
>
>
>
> With apologies for re-raising a previously discussed topic; my boat is a
> 1985 37 with the original Yanmar 3HMF 27 hp; I went for my annual diesel
> fill up and the pumps were out of order; so I had to get diesel from a
> street gas station; although the cost was almost a dollar per gallon
> cheaper, I noted that it was the "green" color rather than the "red" color;
> so my question is do I need to put some type of sulpher additive or
> something along those lines into this fuel? I did motor with it for an
> extended time on Sunday with no adverse effects; in addition to this
> question, what should I use for the upcoming winter layup? many thanks
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River Mi. 584;
>
>
> Richard N. Bush
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
> 502-584-7255
>
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