Chuck That is pretty much the same here (Nova Scotia). However if in conjunction with a J length pole and symmetric spin is -3 per 10 % adjusted from the handicap with the symmetric spin and pole. I believe phrfne is similar
Mike From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Chuck S via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 10:50 AM To: cenelson; C&C 34/36 Owners; CNC boat owners, cnc-list Cc: Chuck S Subject: Re: Stus-List sprit PHRF rating consideration Found some FAQs for New England PHRF ratings when considering adding a sprit. If I read this right: 9 second add if A-sail is only spinnaker on boat and tacked to bow. 3 seconds deducted for each 10% of unsupported sprit length up to 30% of J. http://www.phrfne.org/page/582#anchor6333 Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md ________________________________ From: "Charles Nelson" <cenel...@aol.com<mailto:cenel...@aol.com>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: "Chuck S" <cscheaf...@comcast.net<mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net>> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 11:05:02 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Selden sprit kit install So if one is club racing under PHRF with a racer-cruiser C&C 36 XL (non-planing for sure!), does adding a sprit and asymmetric kite improve its performance relative to a mast head symmetrical kite assuming no change in its PHRF rating? I gather from the list over the years that for round the buoy racing at least there is no appreciable gain in performance. I can appreciate that in distance races and perhaps triangle courses it may provide a speed advantage at some apparent wind angles but am not convinced that it provides an advantage for W-L courses. What say the list? Charlie Nelson Water Phantom C&C 36 XL/kcb Sent from my iPad On Oct 28, 2015, at 9:48 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: Dennis, Pete, Does Selden require backing plates under the deck for the ring and outer Wichard padeye? And how far out should it extend? I thought I needed 5 ft for my 36 footer but the Selden guy at the boat show said 3 feet was enough. He added a longer pole would be beneficial if I was having an oversized sail made for it, similar to what J-boats carry. (how much do you want to spend?) Chuck Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md ________________________________ From: "Pete Shelquist via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: "Pete Shelquist" <pete.shelqu...@comcast.net<mailto:pete.shelqu...@comcast.net>> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 9:25:36 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Selden sprit kit install Good write up Dennis – I installed one and sailed with it in the 2014 season. I would add a couple items to your review; 1. Watch the diameter of sprit. If one has a roller furler, you’ll need clearance between it and the deck 2. In a blow, there is a lot of lift on the front deck fitting. Careful review of the deck should be done in case reinforcement is needed. I noticed weakening in the area even with the addition of a bobstay. Thanks, From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 7:25 PM To: CnClist Cc: Dennis C. Subject: Stus-List Selden sprit kit install Installed a Selden sprit kit on a Peterson 37 today. Interesting piece of equipment. Simple design but effective. Essentially a big ring that mounts on the bow, a sprit pole that slides in/out through the ring and a couple folding padeyes that the rear fiiting clips onto in the retracted or extended position. The tack line passes through the pole exiting through each of the end fittings. The base of the ring is offset so you can mount the ring closer to center line while the pole extends to one side of the forestay. We had to make a StarBoard base to lift the ring a bit so the sprit pole would clear a tack fitting. Simple install. took about 3 hours. Couple things to watch out for. First, the kits are offered in several diameters. As one might expect, the larger diameter kits have longer allowed extension beyond the ring for bigger boats. Be sure to order one large enough to get the extension you need. Second, check with your local handicap organization about penalties and exactly how and where to measure the extended dimension. Third, if your headsail is a deck sweeper and is tacked low to the deck and the foot is low to the deck, you may have to have the tack cut a bit to go over the sprit (about 4 inches off the deck on one side of the forestay). The kit comes with 2 folding padeyes. However, you can install more at different distances to allow the sprit to extend different distances from the bow or measure point. The sprit can be easily removed and stowed below. This is good for boats with an anchor locker since the lid to the locker would be pinned under the sprit. Installation was straightforward once you figure out the different measurements. We installed this one so it retracted clear of the head sail tack point. That way, the head sail tack snap shackle didn't rub on the sprit when going upwind. I have one picture of the finished install if anyone is interested. _______________________________________________ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com<mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com<mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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