Ahmet,
Mine does have a sump towards the aft end of where the keel bolts are, that’s where I have the intake for the bilge pump routed. Not so funny story: C&C had good days and bad days when they were laying up the hulls. I bought my boat in the summer of ’99, in the spring of 2000 I had the bottom soda blasted. While cleaning up the bottom before putting in the Interprotect, I was opening up some small imperfections with a dremel tool. I hit one small mark at the aft end of the keel sump and all of a sudden the antifreeze that I had put in the bulge for the winter, started flowing out. One it stopped I had a good look from outside and inside the bilge. It looked like there was a large air bubble in the layup of the hull and the only thing that was keeping the boat afloat for the 25 years before I bought the boat was the layer of gelcoat. Needless to say that area was filled with epoxy and cut up fibreglass mat until I was satisfied that it was full and well sealed. It is important to torque your keel bolts from time to time (mine are due now), when I torqued them for the first time I got at least one full turn on all of the nuts, some were more. I moved my stanchions to the toerail too, much more room to pass through there and it’s easier to sheet the genoa inboard as well. The 25 is a great boat to sail, you can single-hand it really easily and if you want to race it will sail to its rating. If you have any questions on setting up the boat just give me a shout, I’m happy to help. Rick Taillieu Nemesis '75 C&C 25 #371 Shearwater Yacht Club Halifax, NS. From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ahmet via CnC-List Sent: November-07-15 17:01 To: [email protected] Cc: Ahmet Subject: Re: Stus-List Keel attachment issues on a C&C 25 Thank you. I would be interested to see if you have a sump area, i.e a 3 - 4 inch dropoff in the bilge which then slopes upwards towards the bow. I am not sure how come that keel-bolt got exposed. I did a search for Tabasco on the list archives, and did not find any references. I bought it from an older gentlemen in Marblehead, MA. He had been sailing her for a while but health issues have been preventing him. The boat was neglected to some point. All the wiring was laid up but not connected. The stanchions were leaking. Others have told me that too. Maybe it is a familiar sounding name. First thing I did is replace the stanchions with the aluminum toerail mounted ones and used wooden dowels soaked with 4200 and marinetex to get rid of all holes from he old stanctions. So now the cabin is pretty dry. The hatch is leaking a bit but I think that is just the rubber gasket. He lost the rigging last year so she has brand-new rigging, double, brand new heavy lifelines and a 4-stroke 2010 Nissan 9.9 hp engine. Thank You Ahmet Winthrop Yacht Club / Constitution Marina, Boston, MA 1990 Irwin 43 CC "Waterdancer" 1973 C&C 25 "Tabasco" On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Rick Taillieu via CnC-List <[email protected]> wrote: Ahmet, My 25 was laid up in Nov ’74 and doesn’t look entirely like yours does. Mine has stainless washers under all the nuts I’m going down to the boat tomorrow afternoon, I’ll take some pictures of my keel bolts and put them up on one of the hosting sites. “Tabasco” sounds familiar, did you buy it from someone on the list? Rick Taillieu Nemesis '75 C&C 25 #371 Shearwater Yacht Club Halifax, NS. From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ahmet via CnC-List Sent: November-07-15 15:30 To: [email protected] Cc: Ahmet Subject: Stus-List Keel attachment issues on a C&C 25 Hi everybody, Last August I bought a 1973 C&C 25 "Tabasco" for fun sailing, since I realized that may Irwin 43 "Waterdancer" is a great liveaboard for us, but really not a daysailor :) I love the way Tabasco sails, very easy to handle and fast boat. Being a 43 year old boat, obviously she is an old girl, so here is what I am dealing with: There was excessive rust (Picture 1) <http://www.boatjuggler.com/images/pic1.jpg> in the bilge. After cleaning it up I discovered that there were multiple washers, or a washer and a backing plate under the keel nuts. I said "were" because although the 1.5 inch nut with and the 3 inch washer is in great shape,whatever once was under the washer is almost totally rusted off. In some areas 1/3 or more of the washer is up in air, no contact with the bottom of the bilge. (Picture 2) <http://www.boatjuggler.com/images/pic2.jpg> and what is left, I am afraid, is ready to crumble away. The bilge was full of crumbled rusted metal pieces. Also there was a very sloppy work in the area where the bilge sump is, such that you can actually see the treads of the keel bolt under the washer. (Picture 3) <http://www.boatjuggler.com/images/pic3.jpg> . The washer is halfway in the air and not totally aligned with the keelbolt. This one is the part that concerns me the most. Also on that picture you can see parts of the mat having cured in odd shapes, in front of the bolt. Perhaps someone at one time has done reinforcing, because I see a substantial layer (almost 1/2 in) additional layer of mat about 10 inches wide laid up across the bilge on the keelbolt areas. (Picture 4) <http://www.boatjuggler.com/images/pic4.jpg> Interestingly, there is no water intrusion into the bilge, and no C&C smile. I suspect it has been this way for years. I would like to remove the keelbolts, one at a time, get rid of the rusty part, fair out the bottom of the bilge and install new washers. Unfortunately the boat is in the water for wet winter storage. My question is, should I wait until I haul out next spring to do the bottom paint to do this job, or should I do it now. I have more time over the winter than I will have next spring. Also, I see no trace of any 5200 or similar under the washers. Although I have no leaks, I will add that. My questions are:, * Is it possible that this sloppy work was done at the factory, considering that this is a 1973 model ? * Did anybody else have similar issues, if so, any words of wisdom ? :) * Could I safely do this in the water ? * Any suggestions, besides using mat and epoxy to build up the area around the exposed bolt in (Picture 3) <http://www.boatjuggler.com/images/pic3.jpg> . Many thanks in advance Ahmet Winthrop Yacht Club / Constitution Marina, Boston, MA 1990 Irwin 43 CC "Waterdancer" 1973 C&C 25 "Tabasco" _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6173 / Virus Database: 4457/10961 - Release Date: 11/07/15 _______________________________________________ Email address: [email protected] To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6173 / Virus Database: 4457/10963 - Release Date: 11/07/15
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