Sam,

We put the Coolmatic unit in Perception our 33-II when we added refrigeration. 
Works great, we added the 120v power supply that uses 120 when available, and 
12V when not. Never hear it ... I Have to look and see the fan turning to know 
it's on!

Installation was straight forward, albeit unnerving to cut such a large hole in 
the icebox and bulkhead behind it.

Only wish is we had done it sooner.



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On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 8:59 PM -0800, "Sam Wheeler via CnC-List" 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Josh: Yes - thinking about alternating current if I go with a holding plate 
refrigeration system (for food and drink) that could stay cold for an extended 
period without power.  My fault on the first email, I looked back on it and 
realized that the "AC" reference was really misleading.

For the climate here, I have zero interest in air conditioning for the cabin.

Mooring balls aren't really an option in my area, and I don't have any 
immediate plans to add solar, so it'll be shore power for a while at least, 
with all the disadvantages that go along with that.  Thanks for the suggestion 
though.  A DC fridge would give me a lot more flexibility if circumstances 
change sometime down the line.

Doug: Thanks for all the details.  If you have a chance to take a photo of the 
installation next time you're on the boat I'd be interested, but don't go out 
of your way.

Also just realized that I called Jake "James" in my last email.  Sorry about 
that.  Great way to make a first impression on my part...

Sam

Spanish Dancer
C&C 35 mk III
San Francisco

On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 8:22 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Sam,

After reading other's posts it appears to me that there may have been some 
confusion.  The "AC system" to which you referred is an alternating current 
system for refrigerating food not an Air Conditioning system, correct?

The air cooling you referred to was instead of a keel cooler or water cooled 
refrigeration (again for food), correct?

I apologize for creating some confusion too since I simply referred to my 
system as an aldor-barbour.  I originally failed to follow your link but now 
realize that you had linked to an aldor-barbour system.  So more accurately 
stated mine is a two piece system.  I do not know anything about the install 
process for mine but did talk to a rep from nova-cool who described being able 
to easily connect/disconnect the fittings without losing the refrigerant.  That 
rep also stated that typically a 100w solar panel produced enough power to keep 
the fridge going 24/7.  This is particularly nice if you're ever considering 
keeping the boat on a mooring ball.  The only reason I stay on shore power is 
to keep the fridge cold.  So getting solar is a high priority for me.  Cutting 
the cord can save zincs, minimize risk of fire and risk of shock.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Dec 14, 2015 9:38 PM, "Sam Wheeler via CnC-List" 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hi everyone,

I'm new here.  I recently purchased the 1984 C&C 35 mk III Spanish Dancer.  My 
goal was to find a boat that would be comfortable enough to live on and capable 
enough to be fun to sail in San Francisco Bay - I'm extremely excited about 
this one.  I've been sailing since I was a kid but this is my first 
(non-dinghy) boat of my own, so I expect I'll be boring you all with a lot of 
stupid questions over the next few months.

First up: Refrigeration.  My boat doesn't have it.  Has anyone added 
refrigeration to a 35-3?  How's the stock insulation in the ice chest?  Any 
suggestions on what works or doesn't?

Since I think it will be relatively rare for me to spend more than a night away 
from the slip and shore power, one thought I had was going with a holding plate 
system to run off shore power - maybe even an AC system.  That would keep the 
load off my batteries, I wouldn't have to listen to the compressor running as 
often, and it should store enough cooling in the plate to last for daysails and 
short trips away from the dock.

On the other hand, I'm thinking about the number of projects I have lined up, 
and the simplicity and relative low cost of a CoolMatic single unit kit starts 
to look pretty appealing.  Has anyone used that or something similar?  I'm a 
little concerned about the effect on efficiency of putting the compressor 
(which presumably runs warm) directly next to the box with what looks like 
minimal insulation between it and the evaporator.

Here's the CooMatic kit I'm looking at: 
http://www.westmarine.com/buy/waeco-adler-barbour--coolmatic-cooling-conversion-kit--7895881

Focusing on air cooling at the moment.  I'd rather listen to compressor noise 
and draw a little more shore power than put a new thru-hull in.

Thanks in advance!  I've been lurking for a week or so and this seems like a 
great community.

Sam

Spanish Dancer
C&C 35 mk III
San Francisco

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