Well said,

Steve

Suhana, C&C 32

Toronto


On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 2:38 PM, David Knecht via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> While we are on the subject of lofts- does anyone have experience with Z
> Sails in Stamford, CT?  I was very impressed with some of their novel ideas
> and apparently great performance record. I ended up buying from UK Sails in
> City Island, due to cost, but they were a close second.   I wish I could
> have bought one of each and compared the performance.  Dave
>
> Aries
> 1990 C&C 34+
> New London, CT
>
>
> On Feb 25, 2016, at 1:34 PM, Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> All,
>
> I am extremely happy with the sails built for my C&C 39 TM by UK
> Sailmakers in Charleston, SC.
>
> UK has built (2012) 1 suit of Gold tape drive race sails & 2 suits (1997 &
> 2015) of Silver Tape drive cruising sails for me in the past 10 years or so.
>
> These sails are not cheap, but are designed for my particular 39TM, cut
> and sewed in the USA as well as delivered and fitted to the boat by the
> Charleston loft manager. All was done on time and at the original price
> estimate even after I made a few changes during the construction phase
>
> I have absolutely no complaints with quality and/or service provided by UK
> Sailmakers.
>
> I have not considered the offshore sails so I have no comment beyond I
> feel that you get what you pay for in terms of materials and service
> regardless of where the sails are made.
>
> Best regards,
> Jack Fitzgerald
> HONEY - C&C 39 TM
> US12788
> SAVANNAH
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Danny,
>>
>> I would echo Marek’s suggestion of taking some measurements now, even if
>> the loft is willing to store the sail for you.  I had North Cruising Direct
>> build a sail for me several years ago and provided them the old sail so
>> they would have a template to go along with their own database of the rig
>> dimensions.  The sail was built during the winter and I received it in late
>> February at which time they asked if I wanted to donate the old sail to a
>> company making stuff from used sail cloth.  I said I’d hold on to the old
>> one and was very glad I did.
>>
>>
>>
>> When I went to bend on the new mainsail in May when I launched, the new
>> sail was almost 1’ too short on the boom and roughly 6” short of a full
>> hoist.  It turns out, the loft never measured my old sail and relied solely
>> on their rig measurement database, which neglected to identify that a 25
>> Mk1 has a longer boom than the 25Mk2.   So, my new sail went back to North
>> and we waited 8 more weeks for the new sail to be built, taking us well
>> into July before I received it.  And this was because the North Cruising
>> Direct Sails are built in Sri Lanka  and despite their screw up, they would
>> not build a sail to the correct measurements in the local Rhode Island or
>> Connecticut loft.
>>
>>
>>
>> Had I donated the old sail, the first half of my season would have been
>> lost.  So my suggestion, measure the new sail against the old one while
>> there’s still snow on the ground…
>>
>> Chuck Gilchrest
>>
>> Half Magic  1975 25 mk1
>>
>> Orion   1983 35 Landfall
>>
>> Padanaram, MA
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Marek
>> Dziedzic (hotmail) via CnC-List
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 25, 2016 12:38 PM
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Cc:* Marek Dziedzic (hotmail) <dziedzi...@hotmail.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Sail loft service
>>
>>
>>
>> I would at least measure the luff length. If they made a mistake (and
>> they do happen), you want to catch it early and have them redo the sail (
>> D would only hope that the mistake was on their part, not yours). If the
>> luff is too long, the sail is useless and you want to know that part asap.
>> The rest will show up on the rigging day. Or the first sailing day. Or even
>> later.
>>
>>
>>
>> good luck
>>
>>
>>
>> Marek
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Danny Haughey via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 25, 2016 12:24
>>
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>
>> *Cc:* Danny Haughey <djhaug...@juno.com>
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Sail loft service
>>
>>
>>
>> They sent me a form with diagrams of what they wanted and tips on how to
>> get them.  They also had me take as high a definition photo from the side
>> of the boat, fully rigged and used that, scaled it and double checked all
>> of my measurments to the scaled photo.  Scaling a photo can be surprisingly
>> accurate.  I do this to study existing spaces all the time and there are
>> plenty of software that allow you to calibrate the photo and take
>> measurements.
>>
>>
>>
>> Of course, the real test will not come for a couple of months.  I did
>> feel there was some room for interpolation as, I don't race.  I'm  not
>> overly fussy when it comes to sail shape.  If she isn't luffing and the
>> tell tales seem to be doing what they should, I'm happy as long as the boat
>> is moving along.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am a bit concerned about spreader patches, they just send stick on
>> patches.
>>
>> ---------- Original Message ----------
>> From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> To: "C&C List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> Cc: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Sail loft service
>> Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 11:48:07 -0500
>>
>> Danny,
>>
>> I am curious as to the measurement process.  What did you measure and how
>> did you know how/what to measure.
>>
>> While watching my loft take measurements for the headsail, I was shocked
>> at the different measurements he took.  Each spreader, radar, babystay.
>> Those are just a few which I would have trouble describing let alone
>> understanding the measurement desired.
>>
>> Josh Muckley
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C&C 37+
>> Solomons, MD
>>
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