While we are on the subject of lofts- does anyone have experience with Z Sails 
in Stamford, CT?  I was very impressed with some of their novel ideas and 
apparently great performance record. I ended up buying from UK Sails in City 
Island, due to cost, but they were a close second.   I wish I could have bought 
one of each and compared the performance.  Dave

Aries
1990 C&C 34+
New London, CT



> On Feb 25, 2016, at 1:34 PM, Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> All,
> 
> I am extremely happy with the sails built for my C&C 39 TM by UK Sailmakers 
> in Charleston, SC.
> 
> UK has built (2012) 1 suit of Gold tape drive race sails & 2 suits (1997 & 
> 2015) of Silver Tape drive cruising sails for me in the past 10 years or so.
> 
> These sails are not cheap, but are designed for my particular 39TM, cut and 
> sewed in the USA as well as delivered and fitted to the boat by the 
> Charleston loft manager. All was done on time and at the original price 
> estimate even after I made a few changes during the construction phase
> 
> I have absolutely no complaints with quality and/or service provided by UK 
> Sailmakers.
> 
> I have not considered the offshore sails so I have no comment beyond I feel 
> that you get what you pay for in terms of materials and service regardless of 
> where the sails are made.
> 
> Best regards,
> Jack Fitzgerald
> HONEY - C&C 39 TM
> US12788
> SAVANNAH
> 
> 
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Danny,
> 
> I would echo Marek’s suggestion of taking some measurements now, even if the 
> loft is willing to store the sail for you.  I had North Cruising Direct build 
> a sail for me several years ago and provided them the old sail so they would 
> have a template to go along with their own database of the rig dimensions.  
> The sail was built during the winter and I received it in late February at 
> which time they asked if I wanted to donate the old sail to a company making 
> stuff from used sail cloth.  I said I’d hold on to the old one and was very 
> glad I did.
> 
>  
> 
> When I went to bend on the new mainsail in May when I launched, the new sail 
> was almost 1’ too short on the boom and roughly 6” short of a full hoist.  It 
> turns out, the loft never measured my old sail and relied solely on their rig 
> measurement database, which neglected to identify that a 25 Mk1 has a longer 
> boom than the 25Mk2.   So, my new sail went back to North and we waited 8 
> more weeks for the new sail to be built, taking us well into July before I 
> received it.  And this was because the North Cruising Direct Sails are built 
> in Sri Lanka  and despite their screw up, they would not build a sail to the 
> correct measurements in the local Rhode Island or Connecticut loft.
> 
>  
> 
> Had I donated the old sail, the first half of my season would have been lost. 
>  So my suggestion, measure the new sail against the old one while there’s 
> still snow on the ground…
> 
> Chuck Gilchrest
> 
> Half Magic  1975 25 mk1
> 
> Orion   1983 35 Landfall
> 
> Padanaram, MA
> 
>   <>
> From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Marek Dziedzic (hotmail) 
> via CnC-List
> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 12:38 PM
> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> Cc: Marek Dziedzic (hotmail) <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Sail loft service
> 
>  
> 
> I would at least measure the luff length. If they made a mistake (and they do 
> happen), you want to catch it early and have them redo the sail (D would only 
> hope that the mistake was on their part, not yours). If the luff is too long, 
> the sail is useless and you want to know that part asap. The rest will show 
> up on the rigging day. Or the first sailing day. Or even later.
> 
>  
> 
> good luck
> 
>  
> 
> Marek
> 
>  
> 
> From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List <mailto:[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 12:24
> 
> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> Cc: Danny Haughey <mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Sail loft service
> 
>  
> 
> They sent me a form with diagrams of what they wanted and tips on how to get 
> them.  They also had me take as high a definition photo from the side of the 
> boat, fully rigged and used that, scaled it and double checked all of my 
> measurments to the scaled photo.  Scaling a photo can be surprisingly 
> accurate.  I do this to study existing spaces all the time and there are 
> plenty of software that allow you to calibrate the photo and take 
> measurements.
> 
>  
> 
> Of course, the real test will not come for a couple of months.  I did feel 
> there was some room for interpolation as, I don't race.  I'm  not overly 
> fussy when it comes to sail shape.  If she isn't luffing and the tell tales 
> seem to be doing what they should, I'm happy as long as the boat is moving 
> along.
> 
>  
> 
> I am a bit concerned about spreader patches, they just send stick on patches.
> 
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>>
> To: "C&C List" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> Cc: Josh Muckley <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Sail loft service
> Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 11:48:07 -0500
> 
> Danny,
> 
> I am curious as to the measurement process.  What did you measure and how did 
> you know how/what to measure.
> 
> While watching my loft take measurements for the headsail, I was shocked at 
> the different measurements he took.  Each spreader, radar, babystay.  Those 
> are just a few which I would have trouble describing let alone understanding 
> the measurement desired.
> 
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
> 
> 
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