Hey guys, Thanks for all the kind words. It was a ton of work, but I'm very happy with the results. I think this stuff is a good product with bang for the buck as far as finish goes, but we'll see if it has lasting power after a season or two. For a smooth finish I can't stress prep enough. Sanding out bad brush strokes or drips is key.
Bob - Good point. Maybe I'll try to put off painting the deck... Although my wife is very keen on it and I have some nasty cracking spots on the cabin top. Unfortunately this hull paint makes every other part of the boat look old. Tom - I didn't remove the swim ladder. It is on hinges which were a bit of a pain to cut in around, but I just raised the ladder and used a bungee cord to tie it up to the stanchions so the bottom didn't rest on the paint. Honestly I found the fuel vent and through hulls to be more of a pain. I rolled as close to them as I could and then cut in with the foam brush as smoothly as possible. I made sure to always leave horizontal brush strokes just like I did everywhere else on the hull so the paint "falls" onto itself. Make sense? If you get close, you can see a slight difference in brush pattern around the through hulls and around the swim ladder hinges if you get very close because it's impossible to get a continuous smooth horizontal brush stroke with something poking out of the hull. Ryan > On May 26, 2016, at 10:39 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: > > Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to > cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Bow Pulpit C&C29 II (Dennis C.) > 2. Re: My Experience and Mistakes With Interlux > Brightside/Interlux Prekote (Jake Brodersen) > 3. Re: My Experience and Mistakes With Interlux > Brightside/Interlux Prekote (tom) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 19:52:51 -0500 > From: "Dennis C." <capt...@gmail.com> > To: CnClist <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Bow Pulpit C&C29 II > Message-ID: > <canir+yva2g598djsbzktjoqfolys4373kah4vxbhg3irrij...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > http://www.whitewatermarineinc.com/pulpits.html > > Dennis C. > > On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 6:14 PM, johnr via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: > >> The yard damaged the bow pulpit on my C&C29-2. What would be a good place >> to get an estimate on repair or replacement. >> >> John McLaughlin >> Falcon >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you >> like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All >> Contributions are greatly appreciated! > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20160526/a741f4da/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 21:30:07 -0400 > From: "Jake Brodersen" <captain_j...@cox.net> > To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List My Experience and Mistakes With Interlux > Brightside/Interlux Prekote > Message-ID: <03a801d1b7b7$4d3e9420$e7bbbc60$@cox.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Ryan, > > > > An outstanding job. Excellent gloss. Thanks for sharing your experience. > > > > Jake > > > > Jake Brodersen > > C&C 35 Mk-III ?Midnight Mistress? > > Hampton VA > > > > > > > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Doyle > via CnC-List > Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 11:46 > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: Ryan Doyle <ryanpdo...@gmail.com> > Subject: Stus-List My Experience and Mistakes With Interlux > Brightside/Interlux Prekote > > > > Hey all, > > > > I've got the day off, so I wanted to post my experience as a first-time boat > painter repainting the topsides of my 1976 C&C 30 with Interlux Brightside > and Interlux Prekote. I made some small, but dumb mistakes during this > process. I'm sure the experts will have a little laugh at my expense, but > hopefully this post will save other first-time painters some grief. > > > > When I bought my boat back in October, I knew I was going to repaint her. > The hull was robin's egg blue... which many people think is a beautiful > color, but I don't. The paint job was sloppy with lots of thick brush marks, > and it had been worn off in a few places from rubbing of her lines and > fenders. > > > > This was the state of her hull before: > > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGMGt4dHNRS0tZSXM > > > > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGRGJaVTFUa0FKcTA > > > > I spent my mornings before work this winter rewiring the entire boat - > crawling around in cockpit lockers and getting covered in 40-year-old boat > grime. So when the weather broke and it was finally time to paint, I was > excited to work outside. > > > > I bought 8 cans of Steel Gray Interlux Brightside (A.K.A. Way Too Much... but > more on that later) and 2 cans of Gray Interlux PreKote from defender.com > <http://defender.com> for a total of $351.90 before shipping. > > > > When the paint arrived, I carefully taped off the toe rail at the top, and > the line where the bottom paint starts with Scotch Blue Painter's tape. > > > > Looking like a CDC agent in my 3m respirator, gloves, and cover-alls, I got > to work sanding. If you read online, you'll quickly learn that sanding is > the key to a nice finish. Thankfully, I took this advice seriously. > > > > I sanded the old paint off using 150 grit pads on my cheap Black and Decker > orbit sander. I sanded until I could just see the old paint disappear, then > I moved on to a new section until I had gone over the whole hull. I then > wiped down the whole hull with a rag soaked in Interlux 333 brushing liquid > > > > Sanded: > > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGNGVFWUp4YkpSemM > > > > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGS2Q4bmJhU2JXaWM > > > > I hit those old decals with a blast from my heat gun and they peeled right > off. > > > > Now it was time to prime. I was nervous when I opened the first can of > Interlux PreKote because the stuff was completely separated - the solids were > all on the bottom of the can. I thought maybe I had bought bad paint and I > was also concerned that the weather - then hovering around 55-60 degrees was > too cold to apply it. I took my drill with a mixing bit and mixed up the > paint as best I could. This got it to a nice consistency. > > > > Donning zero protective clothing - just an old pair of gym shorts, an old tee > shirt and brand new sandals - I took a foam roller and rolled on one coat of > primer. This primer was very thick and I thought it did a nice job filling > imperfections. > > > > Here's where I made dumb mistake #1: I got covered in paint. I have plenty > of experience with interior house paints, and at the time I thought, "No > biggie. I'll just rise it off with a hose." Hah. > > > > As I wet my hands, the water just beaded up and my hands stuck together. "Oh > yeah. Boat paint." > > > > Not wanting to use nasty paint thinners to remove it from skin, I went home > and used high percentage rubbing alcohol and a towel. With a lot of elbow > grease, this took the paint and a few layers of skin off quite nicely. > > > > I then waited a day for the primer on the boat to dry. > > > > The next morning, I sanded it. Sanding will be a recurring theme in this > post. I used 150 grit discs again and worked to get the surface as smooth as > possible. In tough, uneven places, I sometimes sanded the primer completely > away, trying to get the surface smooth knowing that I was going to apply > another coat. > > > > I then wiped the whole hull with a damp rag to remove the sanding dust and > rolled on another coat of Interlux PreKote - this time with coveralls on. > > > > The next day I sanded again with 220 grit. Got it to a nice, smooth finish, > and wiped the hull down again with a damp rag. > > > > Now before I get into the finish coating, I want to say I have always been > confused by the phrase "roll and tip". This makes it sound way more > complicated than it is. The definition, as far as I know, of the word "tip" > has nothing to do with what you actually do. For the amateurs out there, I > think the process could be more clearly described as "roll and brush". > > > > This is the best YouTube video I've found of how to roll and tip/brush: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-SGcSlNmoo > > > > The helpful guys at my local West Marine told me to paint a full section of > the boat at one time - IE the whole transom, or all the starboard topsides, > so it's harder to see the lines between applications. I found this to be > good advice. > > > > I started at the port stern and rolled on the first finish coat of Brightside > with a foam roller in a 2' section. I then took my much-too-expensive Purdy > brush and lightly brushed from right to left - starting at the bottom in the > air off the transom, going lightly over the applied paint, and lifting off as > the brush went forward into the non-painted area. > > > > If you apply too much paint, it will curtain and run down when you move on to > the next section. Too little paint, and it doesn't cover. You just need to > do it a few times before you get the right amount. I repeated this process > all over the boat, overlapping each painted section slightly. > > > > The next morning I found my much-too-expensive Purdy brush under my boat and > covered in hardened paint. I had left it there by accident. Instead of > getting some solvent, working the heck out of it to get it clean, and > probably ending up with a gnarled brush, I went to Home Depot and bought a > bag of cheap foam applicator brushes. > > > > I then very lightly sanded the whole hull again with a 320 grit sanding block. > > > > I started on finish coat 2 with a new foam roller and this time tipping > (brushing) with one of the cheap 3" foam brushes. I actually liked the > finish I got with the cheap foam brush better than the expensive Purdy. Then > I applied another coat. > > > > By the time I had finished the third coat of Brightside, I had used only 5 > quarts of my 8. I don't think I applied it to thinly, but maybe I did. Time > will tell. > > > > I then taped off the C&C stripe and stars and applied 3 coats of White > Interlux Brightside there. > > > > In the end, I was happy with the results. I'd give my paint job a B+. It > doesn't look like a new boat's finish, but she sure looks a heck of a lot > better than she did. I'm curious to see how long three coats of this stuff > lasts. I plan to wax the hull before I put her in the water for some added > protection. > > > > My biggest problem now is that the deck looks dirty in comparison to the > hull... So I'll be painting that now too. > > > > Here are photos of the finished product: > > > > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGMzhwcmV5bTRZLUU > > > > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGVmQ3ejZvT3hOZGc > > > > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGU2ZRZVJhVm1yVkE > > > > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGeXh6UVBWR1lXTm8 > > > > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGS0NqS0oxSV9KTGs > > > > I hope some people find this post helpful. > > > > > > Ryan > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20160526/0406b608/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 22:38:33 -0400 > From: tom <to6...@gmail.com> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List My Experience and Mistakes With Interlux > Brightside/Interlux Prekote > Message-ID: > <cadwgbbrb41-1d30smemppiuzdim0snxr3k4b_jenvv3tdor...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi Ryan, > Looks great and might motivate me to do the same next season. Can you > comment though about the swim ladder. Was it difficult to work around and > should I think about removing it before painting? > Thanks, > Tom Oryniak > 33-1 > Carry On > > On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 11:46 AM, Ryan Doyle via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> Hey all, >> >> I've got the day off, so I wanted to post my experience as a first-time >> boat painter repainting the topsides of my 1976 C&C 30 with Interlux >> Brightside and Interlux Prekote. I made some small, but dumb mistakes >> during this process. I'm sure the experts will have a little laugh at my >> expense, but hopefully this post will save other first-time painters some >> grief. >> >> When I bought my boat back in October, I knew I was going to repaint her. >> The hull was robin's egg blue... which many people think is a beautiful >> color, but I don't. The paint job was sloppy with lots of thick brush >> marks, and it had been worn off in a few places from rubbing of her lines >> and fenders. >> >> This was the state of her hull before: >> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGMGt4dHNRS0tZSXM >> >> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGRGJaVTFUa0FKcTA >> >> I spent my mornings before work this winter rewiring the entire boat - >> crawling around in cockpit lockers and getting covered in 40-year-old boat >> grime. So when the weather broke and it was finally time to paint, I was >> excited to work outside. >> >> I bought 8 cans of Steel Gray Interlux Brightside (A.K.A. Way Too Much... >> but more on that later) and 2 cans of Gray Interlux PreKote from >> defender.com for a total of $351.90 before shipping. >> >> When the paint arrived, I carefully taped off the toe rail at the top, and >> the line where the bottom paint starts with Scotch Blue Painter's tape. >> >> Looking like a CDC agent in my 3m respirator, gloves, and cover-alls, I >> got to work sanding. If you read online, you'll quickly learn that sanding >> is the key to a nice finish. Thankfully, I took this advice seriously. >> >> I sanded the old paint off using 150 grit pads on my cheap Black and >> Decker orbit sander. I sanded until I could just see the old paint >> disappear, then I moved on to a new section until I had gone over the whole >> hull. I then wiped down the whole hull with a rag soaked in Interlux 333 >> brushing liquid >> >> Sanded: >> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGNGVFWUp4YkpSemM >> >> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGS2Q4bmJhU2JXaWM >> >> I hit those old decals with a blast from my heat gun and they peeled right >> off. >> >> Now it was time to prime. I was nervous when I opened the first can of >> Interlux PreKote because the stuff was completely separated - the solids >> were all on the bottom of the can. I thought maybe I had bought bad paint >> and I was also concerned that the weather - then hovering around 55-60 >> degrees was too cold to apply it. I took my drill with a mixing bit and >> mixed up the paint as best I could. This got it to a nice consistency. >> >> Donning zero protective clothing - just an old pair of gym shorts, an old >> tee shirt and brand new sandals - I took a foam roller and rolled on one >> coat of primer. This primer was very thick and I thought it did a nice job >> filling imperfections. >> >> Here's where I made dumb mistake #1: I got covered in paint. I have >> plenty of experience with interior house paints, and at the time I thought, >> "No biggie. I'll just rise it off with a hose." Hah. >> >> As I wet my hands, the water just beaded up and my hands stuck together. >> "Oh yeah. Boat paint." >> >> Not wanting to use nasty paint thinners to remove it from skin, I went >> home and used high percentage rubbing alcohol and a towel. With a lot of >> elbow grease, this took the paint and a few layers of skin off quite nicely. >> >> I then waited a day for the primer on the boat to dry. >> >> The next morning, I sanded it. Sanding will be a recurring theme in this >> post. I used 150 grit discs again and worked to get the surface as smooth >> as possible. In tough, uneven places, I sometimes sanded the primer >> completely away, trying to get the surface smooth knowing that I was going >> to apply another coat. >> >> I then wiped the whole hull with a damp rag to remove the sanding dust and >> rolled on another coat of Interlux PreKote - this time with coveralls on. >> >> The next day I sanded again with 220 grit. Got it to a nice, smooth >> finish, and wiped the hull down again with a damp rag. >> >> Now before I get into the finish coating, I want to say I have always been >> confused by the phrase "roll and tip". This makes it sound way more >> complicated than it is. The definition, as far as I know, of the word >> "tip" has nothing to do with what you actually do. For the amateurs out >> there, I think the process could be more clearly described as "roll and >> brush". >> >> This is the best YouTube video I've found of how to roll and tip/brush: >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-SGcSlNmoo >> >> The helpful guys at my local West Marine told me to paint a full section >> of the boat at one time - IE the whole transom, or all the starboard >> topsides, so it's harder to see the lines between applications. I found >> this to be good advice. >> >> I started at the port stern and rolled on the first finish coat of >> Brightside with a foam roller in a 2' section. I then took my >> much-too-expensive Purdy brush and lightly brushed from right to left - >> starting at the bottom in the air off the transom, going lightly over the >> applied paint, and lifting off as the brush went forward into the >> non-painted area. >> >> If you apply too much paint, it will curtain and run down when you move on >> to the next section. Too little paint, and it doesn't cover. You just >> need to do it a few times before you get the right amount. I repeated this >> process all over the boat, overlapping each painted section slightly. >> >> The next morning I found my much-too-expensive Purdy brush under my boat >> and covered in hardened paint. I had left it there by accident. Instead >> of getting some solvent, working the heck out of it to get it clean, and >> probably ending up with a gnarled brush, I went to Home Depot and bought a >> bag of cheap foam applicator brushes. >> >> I then very lightly sanded the whole hull again with a 320 grit sanding >> block. >> >> I started on finish coat 2 with a new foam roller and this time tipping >> (brushing) with one of the cheap 3" foam brushes. I actually liked the >> finish I got with the cheap foam brush better than the expensive Purdy. >> Then I applied another coat. >> >> By the time I had finished the third coat of Brightside, I had used only 5 >> quarts of my 8. I don't think I applied it to thinly, but maybe I did. >> Time will tell. >> >> I then taped off the C&C stripe and stars and applied 3 coats of White >> Interlux Brightside there. >> >> In the end, I was happy with the results. I'd give my paint job a B+. It >> doesn't look like a new boat's finish, but she sure looks a heck of a lot >> better than she did. I'm curious to see how long three coats of this stuff >> lasts. I plan to wax the hull before I put her in the water for some added >> protection. >> >> My biggest problem now is that the deck looks dirty in comparison to the >> hull... So I'll be painting that now too. >> >> Here are photos of the finished product: >> >> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGMzhwcmV5bTRZLUU >> >> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGVmQ3ejZvT3hOZGc >> >> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGU2ZRZVJhVm1yVkE >> >> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGeXh6UVBWR1lXTm8 >> >> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGS0NqS0oxSV9KTGs >> >> I hope some people find this post helpful. >> >> >> Ryan >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you >> like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All >> Contributions are greatly appreciated! > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20160526/ee6ed92f/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > CnC-List mailing list > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > ------------------------------ > > End of CnC-List Digest, Vol 124, Issue 126 > ****************************************** _______________________________________________ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
