Thanks Rick and Josh...
To correct my earlier post...my current winches are Barient 28ST's.....the
width of the winch coming is 9" and the winch base measures at 8.5" now. The
lower life line is about 9" from the center of the winch...
So the situation on by boat is.....she is set up to race only.....she was
sailed by a nice old couple on the way to church once a week during the mid
80's up to 1997. When I bought her in 1997, I started an almost annual process
of upgrading .....the boat now not only looks great, but races very well to her
rating in PHRF.These winches are original to the boat (1977) and have been
rebuilt at least once by me....
We sail with a Pentax 155 and a full batten main .....also a 135 and a 110.
It takes a gorilla to bring the 155 in when tacking in anything over 8kts.
I like the idea of longer handles but there's the issue of hitting the
lifelines, etc.
I just think it's time to move on to a modern winch......Harken is the obvious
choice, but I thought there might be an alternative to their pricing..Weight is
also a religion on my boat, so big heavy and chrome don't make it....
Thanks again Ron
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-------- Original message --------From: Rick Brass via CnC-List
<[email protected]> Date: 8/26/16 12:18 AM (GMT-05:00) To:
[email protected] Cc: Rick Brass <[email protected]> Subject: Re:
Stus-List New Subject. Winch replacement for a C&C 38MKII
38ST’s? Those must be huge. I replaced the old Merriman 33 primaries on Imzadi
with Barient 32s (equivalent to Anderson/Lewmar/Harken 58 or 56), and I’m in
the process of upgrading to 32ST’s to make single handing easier. But even
with these big winches cranking in the 155 was a chore. The 135 headsail I now
use is easier, but I can’t imagine that I would want anything smaller unless I
was limiting the size of the headsail to 100 or 110 and not going out in winds
of 20 apparent or more. I’ve tried using the Barient 28 secondaries
(equivalent to Harken 52s) to trim the headsail a few times. The bigger winched
are noticeably easier. Harken recommends a formula based on sail area to
calculate the target power ratio of new winches. Based on a 400 sq. ft.
headsail (100% on our boats) and a pull of 35 pounds on the winch handle,
Harken 68’s are the right size for our boats. My 135 is 562 sq. ft., which
means the load on the end of the winch handle can be as high as 60 pounds with
my current winches. I’d definitely stick with the big winches. So why are you
replacing your big winches? Are they worn out beyond redemption? Rick
BrassImzadi C&C 38 mk 2la Belle Aurore C&C 25 mk1Washington, NC From:
CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rjcasciato via
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Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:34 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: Rjcasciato <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Stus-List New Subject. Winch replacement for a C&C 38MKII Hoping
there is some help and advice out there among the group. I’m going to replace
my primary winches on Impromptu over the winter. Currently, I have a pair of
Barient 38ST’s. While I think it would be nice to try a 3 speed…….I’m sure
that price is prohibitive. So given the size of the current winches………….who has
had some good experience with other manufacturers and keeping value in mind,
any recommendations. The boat is used primarily for PHRF racing………but like most
of , the crew is aging gracefully………..and I’d like to keep it that way. Thanks
for your input and insight. Ron C.ImpromptuC&C 38MKIIC…..’77
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