Those 28s are virtually indistructable but they are heavy. What size are you going up to? Joel
On Friday, August 26, 2016, rjcasciato via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Thanks Rick and Josh... > > To correct my earlier post...my current winches are Barient 28ST's.....the > width of the winch coming is 9" and the winch base measures at 8.5" now. > The lower life line is about 9" from the center of the winch... > > So the situation on by boat is.....she is set up to race only.....she was > sailed by a nice old couple on the way to church once a week during the mid > 80's up to 1997. When I bought her in 1997, I started an almost annual > process of upgrading .....the boat now not only looks great, but races very > well to her rating in PHRF. > These winches are original to the boat (1977) and have been rebuilt at > least once by me.... > > We sail with a Pentax 155 and a full batten main .....also a 135 and a 110. > > It takes a gorilla to bring the 155 in when tacking in anything over 8kts. > > I like the idea of longer handles but there's the issue of hitting the > lifelines, etc. > > I just think it's time to move on to a modern winch...... > Harken is the obvious choice, but I thought there might be an alternative > to their pricing.. > Weight is also a religion on my boat, so big heavy and chrome don't make > it.... > > Thanks again > Ron > > > > > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Rick Brass via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com');>> > Date: 8/26/16 12:18 AM (GMT-05:00) > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com');> > Cc: Rick Brass <rickbr...@earthlink.net > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rickbr...@earthlink.net');>> > Subject: Re: Stus-List New Subject. Winch replacement for a C&C 38MKII > > 38ST’s? Those must be huge. > > > > I replaced the old Merriman 33 primaries on Imzadi with Barient 32s > (equivalent to Anderson/Lewmar/Harken 58 or 56), and I’m in the process of > upgrading to 32ST’s to make single handing easier. > > > > But even with these big winches cranking in the 155 was a chore. The 135 > headsail I now use is easier, but I can’t imagine that I would want > anything smaller unless I was limiting the size of the headsail to 100 or > 110 and not going out in winds of 20 apparent or more. > > > > I’ve tried using the Barient 28 secondaries (equivalent to Harken 52s) to > trim the headsail a few times. The bigger winched are noticeably easier. > > > > Harken recommends a formula based on sail area to calculate the target > power ratio of new winches. Based on a 400 sq. ft. headsail (100% on our > boats) and a pull of 35 pounds on the winch handle, Harken 68’s are the > right size for our boats. My 135 is 562 sq. ft., which means the load on > the end of the winch handle can be as high as 60 pounds with my current > winches. I’d definitely stick with the big winches. > > > > So why are you replacing your big winches? Are they worn out beyond > redemption? > > > > Rick Brass > > *Imzadi *C&C 38 mk 2 > > *la Belle Aurore *C&C 25 mk1 > > Washington, NC > > > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com');>] *On > Behalf Of *Rjcasciato via CnC-List > *Sent:* Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:34 PM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com');> > *Cc:* Rjcasciato <rjcasci...@comcast.net > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rjcasci...@comcast.net');>> > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List New Subject. Winch replacement for a C&C 38MKII > > > > Hoping there is some help and advice out there among the group. > > > > I’m going to replace my primary winches on Impromptu over the winter. > Currently, I have a pair of Barient 38ST’s. While I think it would be nice > to try a 3 speed…….I’m sure that price is prohibitive. > > > > So given the size of the current winches………….who has had some good > experience with other manufacturers and keeping value in mind, any > recommendations. > > > > The boat is used primarily for PHRF racing………but like most of , the crew > is aging gracefully………..and I’d like to keep it that way. > > > > Thanks for your input and insight. > > > > Ron C. > > Impromptu > > C&C 38MKIIC…..’77 > -- Joel 301 541 8551
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