3.3 Deck/Hull Joint The hull-to-deck joint details are illustrated in Fig.
1. On assembly, the top of the hull flange is capped with butyl compound to
which is fitted a vinyl rub rail topped by another layer of butyl compound.
The deck is lowered onto the hull and fastened by means of stainless steel
thru-bolts. When the bolts are tightened, the butyl compound in the joint
is forced into the exposed crevices. It should be noted that if a leak
should develop at the hull/deck joint, the thru-bolts in the area may be
tightened, care being taken not to allow the bolt to turn while tightening
the nut.

On 13 November 2016 at 22:01, Ken Heaton <[email protected]> wrote:

> The manual for the 1977 C&C 38 is here: http://www.
> cncphotoalbum.com/download/38manual.pdf
>
> See page 9 (3.3 Hull Deck Joint) and the illustration on page 35.
>
> I doubt the 1973 43' custom is much different.
>
> The Hull to Deck joint on a friend's 1973 C&C 35 Mk.I is essentially what
> is shown in the 1977 drawing in the manual for the 38.
>
> Ken H.
>
> On 13 November 2016 at 21:45, Violeta Ivanova via CnC-List <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Gary, Leslie: thanks. As I understand, parts of the toe rail on our boat
>> are also very worn out. To be honest, I never noticed, but I wasn't looking
>> for it when I sailed the boat earlier this year. I am not near her at
>> present. I am only helping with the research.
>>
>> South Shore/Bob seems like an excellent resource. We'll check that out.
>>
>> How does one know if the old sealant is butyl or something else? Can you
>> tell from this photo?
>>
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/jdwc8k7tem6s39r/toerail1.jpg?dl=0
>>
>> The photo also shows how toe rail corrosion affects the topsides of our
>> C&C 43. Repainting the topsides is on the to do list, too.
>>
>> Violeta
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I got a quote for on piece of toe rail from South Shore, that is Rob. It
>>> is an exact replacement for the bow piece of my rail, and is 15.5 feet
>>> long. I would take the old one off and look before spending the not trivial
>>> amount on a new one, you may have leaks because the original 40 year old
>>> butyl is gone.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of 
>>> *Violeta
>>> Ivanova via CnC-List
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, November 13, 2016 2:46 PM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Cc:* Violeta Ivanova <[email protected]>
>>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 1973 custom C&C 43' - hull/deck joint (toe
>>> rail replacement?)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks, Bob. This is great information! I was wondering where one might
>>> find scale drawings. I will contact the museum.
>>>
>>> Good to hear removing the toe rail will not affect the joint
>>> structurally. I thought it might, but it doesn't seem to be the case.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for all the links to vendors! I am replying here to everyone who
>>> responded, so I don't send multiple emails.
>>>
>>> Ken - yes, it is the slotted aluminum toe rail. As far as I know, the
>>> reasons for replacement are leaks and corrosion. I was not involved in the
>>> decision to replace the toe rail. The C&C 43' belongs to my university, and
>>> I am one of her skippers. Great boat!
>>>
>>> I had not seen the do it yourself album yet - very useful, thanks. I am
>>> poking around the website now - great resource!
>>>
>>> We tried Holland Marine already, but they didn't have our toe rail. Rob
>>> McLaughlin and Klacko Spars are new names for me - thanks for the links. If
>>> anyone can think of other possible sources for that toe rail, please let me
>>> know.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Violeta
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 10:19 AM, robertlmazza via CnC-List <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Violeta,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> All the drawings for the C&C 43 reside in the C&C collection in the
>>> archives if the Marine Museum of the Great Lakes at Kingston (Ontario). If
>>> you contact the museum curator through the website you can order a copy  of
>>> the construction plan which most likely show the toe rail and hull to deck
>>> joint. If you know which 43 you own (original name of boat or her first
>>> owner) you most can likely get copies of the drawings relating specifically
>>> to your 43.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> However, merely removing and replacing the toe rail will not jeopardize
>>> the structural integrity of the hull to deck joint over that period.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A replacement rail may be available from Rob McLaughlin at South Shore
>>> Yachts in St. Catherines, ON.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rob Mazza
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from Samsung Mobile
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>
>>> From: Violeta Ivanova via CnC-List
>>>
>>> Date:11-12-2016 2:19 PM (GMT-05:00)
>>>
>>> To: [email protected]
>>>
>>> Cc: Violeta Ivanova
>>>
>>> Subject: Stus-List 1973 custom C&C 43' - hull/deck joint (toe rail
>>> replacement?)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Greetings all.
>>>
>>> Might someone here help with questions about the custom C&C 43' from
>>> 1973? This was a limited edition and I think only fourteen boats were ever
>>> built. We would like to replace the toe rail on our boat, but are unsure
>>> how that might affect the hull/deck joint.
>>>
>>> Some specific questions:
>>>
>>> 1 - What is the structure of the hull/deck joint on the 1973 C&C 43'?
>>>
>>> 2 - How is the toe rail integrated with the hull/deck joint?
>>>
>>> 3 - What happens if we remove the toe rail (or part of it)?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Good advice will be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Violeta
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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