well,

I guess if you add in the time the guy took to listen to the request, then, the time it took to find the guy to do the job and tell him about it, and then the time it took to go get the tools and go to the boat and climb on board, take a nap, then tighten the bolts and fill out the time slip, I guess it could go 5 hours...

The yard I'm at now seems unwilling to give prices for projects. They just want your work at time and material. so, there is no risk on their part and no pressure on their guys to work efficiently. I consider this a DIY yard now. You know, if they didn't charge the full rate for everyone the pricing might be a bit more fair but, they want full rate on anything they do. I mean, obviously, they don't need the work or, they would be better at pricing. I know in construction, when the pricing does not make any sense, the contractor doesn't really want your work but, will take it if the reward is high enough.

I asked for a price recently on touching up bottom paint and all I got was, "yes, we do that for you..." No price, no estimate, no thanks!

Here is the amazing thing to me. boats are a true luxury, no one NEEDS a boat. Most of us have limited budgets to spend on them and (at least me Lately!) wonder if it is even worth it, financially, to own a boat. Given the the short season around here, the monthly cost is pretty high. Then, you have these boat service places that just want to pry as much from your hands as possible.

I have to say, I really miss FL Tipps in westport, ma. We had some issues but, they did run things like a real service company. Accurate quotes that they stood by. Discounts for scheduling early for winter work. Fair pricing on time and material work. No labor padding. When you store there, they don't charge for moving your boat, they don;t charge for moving your mast so you can work on it. I've actually gotten labor bills for 1 hour or part of an hour.

Where I am now, they charge you for even thinking about your boat it seems!

Danny


On 6/12/2017 9:33 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List wrote:
Did that include pulling the mast to get at the one under the step?
If not, 5 hours is about 4 hours too long for that job! Just went through it myself last year. They might want two guys to do it, so I would compromise with them and say you'll pay for two hours. Otherwise I would be shouting from the rooftops and raising holy hell with them. Five hours to tighten 5 nuts?! Tell them you'll ensure they get lots of publicity for their expertise in fleecing their customers. Then get the heck out of that place!

Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine

On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 8:41 AM, PETER OCAMPO via CnC-List <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Hi guys

    Before I speak to the yard. About charging me 5 hours to torque my
    5 bolts  3 large at 450ft/lbs that I fully exposed i.e. Moved
    wires removed cabin  table and covers  cleared water from bildge

    just wondering what the avg time charged  or if it takes multiple
    guys to do this job

    Peter
    Goonie island C&c 40 1983 aft cabin

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