I had a 2 micron filter 4 feet before the engine filter housing (had to pull 
heat exchanger to change it). Before the 2 micron canister filter was a 30 
micron racors 500 filter.  Never had a problem with the engine fuel supply in 
10 years. I always used Soltron when I got fuel. Only time I had a problem was 
coming across the Straits of Juan de Fuca. Engine died in flat calm water, 
changed both filters restarted engine and was off again. I had forgot to change 
the filter for about 5 years. Oops. 

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-------- Original message --------From: Gary Smith via CnC-List 
<[email protected]> Date: 6/26/17  10:53  (GMT-08:00) To: 
[email protected] Cc: Gary Smith <[email protected]> Subject: Re: 
Stus-List Air in fuel line #2 
I'd be very interested in the outcome. As I said, in my experience both the old 
and new Racor filters suffered from the same problem with the 2 micron cassette 
installed. A new racor unit was installed as part of the fault diagnosis.

My Yanmar has a 2 micron filter situated right on the engine (very short hoses) 
and after the fuel lift pump, it has a 10 micron filter before the pump. I 
really believe that your problem is a 2 micron filter under vacuum.

On 26 June 2017 at 15:34, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List <[email protected]> 
wrote:


Thanks for your responses. To answer some of the questions raised, the pumps 
were placed downstream of the Racor for a couple of reasons.




1. The pump original location was upstream of the Racor (30 micron) which was 
recommended by the Beta engineer because these small pumps do not have much 
vertical lift capability. OTOH, their internals have a very small orifice that 
can and did block the fuel flow since it was unfiltered at that location. Since 
they were in-line pumps, the solution was to swap out the pump or filter (some 
have a small one on the inlet to the pump). However, doing this in the small 
confines of the pump location was a giant PITA, especially since they failed 
while the motor was in use--while on the water! Rigging a parallel set in this 
upstream location was also difficult because of the limited space.





2. To mitigate this failure possibility, 2 pumps with check valves were 
installed in parallel powered by the ignition switch, with another switch that 
would select which pump to use. Both of these have enough lift capability (I 
think!) to suck filtered fuel thru the Racor and push it to the primary filter. 
They certainly pumped fuel well when I took the hose off the engine 
filter--albeit initially with frothy fuel or just air in the line. Plus at this 
location, any fuel they see has passed thru the Racor so they are very unlikely 
to clog themselves.





3. My diesel mechanic is to determine the source of the problem today--if he 
can. If not, he will replace the pick-up tube assembly and install a new, 
possibly different Racor filter/separator. IMHO, the model I have (500?) has a 
poorly designed, double O-ring top seal, which on my boat is impossible to see 
because of where the Racor is mounted (high and on the other side from the 
access panel). Getting the filter replaced, complete with 2 new O rings, is 
possible but not easy. Plus there is no way I can determine if the seas are 
clean except by 'feel'.





Maybe I will know more by tonight--if nothing else, both the Racor and the 
pickup assemble will be 'new'.





Thanks again for your thoughts,





Charlie Nelson

Water Phantom

1995 C&C 36XL/kcb








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