Dan,
I'm a lot more concerned with the surveyor's lack of knowledge of your
particular model than I am of moisture meter readings. MM readings for
fiberglass should be taken with the grain of salt at best, and no
conclusions formed from them. Percussion tests are much more reliable,
if labor intensive.
I'm also wondering if your 3 blade prop isn't perhaps a feathering prop
(all blades turn inline with the shaft while at rest?)
Mack
On 7/11/2017 9:12 AM, Dan via CnC-List wrote:
this prop is a 3 blade geared folding prop. It may not be the original
prop though... I remember being told this was a $2000 prop at the time
I viewed the boat :)
On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
A geared folding prop does not have the same problem and is also
fast (and a great way to spend another $2000)
Mike
Persistence
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Barba, Joe via CnC-List
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 11, 2017 11:05 AM
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*Cc:* Della Barba, Joe
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List 1986 C&C 44 balsa core isolated or not
Looking back, you can check the shaft tube and strut for damage.
It could also just be a leaky stuffing box. Going forward, if you
persist with the folding prop (I totally hate them but the boat
sails faster), if it does not open, STOP RIGHT THEN and fix it
before it does some damage. The more you use the boat, the less
likely you are to have issues too.
Joe
Coquina
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*Sent:* Tuesday, July 11, 2017 10:00 AM
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*Cc:* Della Barba, Joe <[email protected]
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*Subject:* Re: Stus-List 1986 C&C 44 balsa core isolated or not
Very helpful, thank you so much - and also very scarey... This
boat does have a folding prop but it looks brand new. I think this
surveyor has more to say but is waiting to get right into the full
survey. I did discover that there is about an inch of standing
water under the engine and around the prop shaft that could
account for the high external meter readings in that area. The
area near the bow of the boat is still a mystery. I've learned
that all C&C's from this era over 32' have coring below the
waterline down to about 12" from the centerline where it becomes
solid glass. Hopefully this spot is just a tank and not wet core.
Dan
On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Besides for that, I would expect a surveyor to TELL ME things
like that, not me tell him!
Do note a half-open folding prop can do extensive damage. When
my parents had Coquina out in the 1980s they had to do an
emergency haul-out because the f%$%^&% Martec stuck half-open
and nearly ripped the strut off the boat. I suspect this could
be much worse with a diesel on rubber mounts too.
Joe
Coquina
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Mike via CnC-List
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 11, 2017 8:21 AM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Cc:* Hoyt, Mike <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List 1986 C&C 44 balsa core isolated or not
The shaft exists the hull thru the Stern Tube. Is possible
there was some damage or vibration at some point that created
a crack which has likely been repaired since. Normally areas
such as stern tube, strut, etc … are solid rather than cored.
Find out because is possible is not moisture being read and
maybe just an epoxy repair which can read differently on
moisture meters…
Mike
Persistence
Halifax
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I am shocked too...i think I would be careful answering for
him..this is what you pay for...
Bill Walker
CnC 36
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On Monday, July 10, 2017 John Irvin via CnC-List
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I'm surprised the surveyor doesn't know most of these answers
himself.
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On Jul 10, 2017, at 4:10 PM, Dan via CnC-List
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Regarding the 1986 C&C 44 I'm buying:
My surveyor got back to me having done only the moisture
meter readings on the hull and topsides. The results were
not horrific but there are some areas of concern and I
have some questions for other C&C owners with Balsa cored
boats from around 1986.
1. The surveyor asked if the balsa extends below the water
line or is the boat solid glass waterline down?
2. There was a high moisture content found in the bow
area, starboard side below the waterline just below the
chain locker area. Is there a water tank there or could
this be wet balsa?
3. There was a very high moisture content all around the
shaft log (where the propeller shaft protrudes) - Does
anyone know why that would be?
4. There was slightly elevated moisture around the anchor
windlass and foot pedals. Was an electric windlass a
standard install on a C&C44 or could this moisture be due
to someone cutting a hole themselves without isolating the
core?
Thanks everyone, sorry, I know this was a little longer
but It'd be great to know what I'm dealing with! :)
Dan
On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 11:03 PM, Dan <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Sorry if this was sent twice - the first time I tried it I
was not registered but had no responses...
I'm looking at a 1986 C&C 44 to buy. Before I get into
paying for a survey to check the core out with a moisture
meter I'm wondering if any 44 owners out there have had
any problems with wet core? - when you remove through hull
fittings is the core isolated with solid glass to prevent
egress or can you visibly see the balsa core layer?
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