Hi Mack, yes, you're right, it is a feathering prop. Nothing "folds" at all. In the full survey we sourced most of the high moisture to standing water in non-cored areas. The surveyor is not too concerned with the readings himself and isn't recommending core samples or test drilling. We're moving on to sea trial this week or next. Exciting times!!!
Dan Halifax NS On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 12:54 PM, Mack McKinney via CnC-List < [email protected]> wrote: > Dan, > > I'm a lot more concerned with the surveyor's lack of knowledge of your > particular model than I am of moisture meter readings. MM readings for > fiberglass should be taken with the grain of salt at best, and no > conclusions formed from them. Percussion tests are much more reliable, if > labor intensive. > > I'm also wondering if your 3 blade prop isn't perhaps a feathering prop > (all blades turn inline with the shaft while at rest?) > > Mack > > On 7/11/2017 9:12 AM, Dan via CnC-List wrote: > > this prop is a 3 blade geared folding prop. It may not be the original > prop though... I remember being told this was a $2000 prop at the time I > viewed the boat :) > > On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> A geared folding prop does not have the same problem and is also fast >> (and a great way to spend another $2000) >> >> >> >> Mike >> >> Persistence >> >> >> >> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Della >> Barba, Joe via CnC-List >> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 11, 2017 11:05 AM >> *To:* Dan; [email protected] >> *Cc:* Della Barba, Joe >> >> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 1986 C&C 44 balsa core isolated or not >> >> >> >> Looking back, you can check the shaft tube and strut for damage. It could >> also just be a leaky stuffing box. Going forward, if you persist with the >> folding prop (I totally hate them but the boat sails faster), if it does >> not open, STOP RIGHT THEN and fix it before it does some damage. The more >> you use the boat, the less likely you are to have issues too. >> >> >> >> Joe >> >> Coquina >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Dan [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] >> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 11, 2017 10:00 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Cc:* Della Barba, Joe <[email protected]> >> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 1986 C&C 44 balsa core isolated or not >> >> >> >> Very helpful, thank you so much - and also very scarey... This boat does >> have a folding prop but it looks brand new. I think this surveyor has more >> to say but is waiting to get right into the full survey. I did discover >> that there is about an inch of standing water under the engine and around >> the prop shaft that could account for the high external meter readings in >> that area. The area near the bow of the boat is still a mystery. I've >> learned that all C&C's from this era over 32' have coring below the >> waterline down to about 12" from the centerline where it becomes solid >> glass. Hopefully this spot is just a tank and not wet core. >> >> >> >> Dan >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> Besides for that, I would expect a surveyor to TELL ME things like that, >> not me tell him! >> >> Do note a half-open folding prop can do extensive damage. When my parents >> had Coquina out in the 1980s they had to do an emergency haul-out because >> the f%$%^&% Martec stuck half-open and nearly ripped the strut off the >> boat. I suspect this could be much worse with a diesel on rubber mounts too. >> >> >> >> Joe >> >> Coquina >> >> >> >> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Hoyt, >> Mike via CnC-List >> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 11, 2017 8:21 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Cc:* Hoyt, Mike <[email protected]> >> >> >> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 1986 C&C 44 balsa core isolated or not >> >> >> >> The shaft exists the hull thru the Stern Tube. Is possible there was >> some damage or vibration at some point that created a crack which has >> likely been repaired since. Normally areas such as stern tube, strut, etc >> … are solid rather than cored. Find out because is possible is not >> moisture being read and maybe just an epoxy repair which can read >> differently on moisture meters… >> >> >> >> Mike >> >> Persistence >> >> Halifax >> >> >> >> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:[email protected] >> <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *William Walker via >> CnC-List >> *Sent:* Monday, July 10, 2017 7:38 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Cc:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 1986 C&C 44 balsa core isolated or not >> >> >> >> I am shocked too...i think I would be careful answering for him..this is >> what you pay for... >> Bill Walker >> CnC 36 >> >> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> On Monday, July 10, 2017 John Irvin via CnC-List <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> I'm surprised the surveyor doesn't know most of these answers himself. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> On Jul 10, 2017, at 4:10 PM, Dan via CnC-List <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Regarding the 1986 C&C 44 I'm buying: >> >> >> >> My surveyor got back to me having done only the moisture meter readings >> on the hull and topsides. The results were not horrific but there are some >> areas of concern and I have some questions for other C&C owners with Balsa >> cored boats from around 1986. >> >> >> >> 1. The surveyor asked if the balsa extends below the water line or is the >> boat solid glass waterline down? >> >> >> >> 2. There was a high moisture content found in the bow area, starboard >> side below the waterline just below the chain locker area. Is there a water >> tank there or could this be wet balsa? >> >> >> >> 3. There was a very high moisture content all around the shaft log (where >> the propeller shaft protrudes) - Does anyone know why that would be? >> >> >> >> 4. There was slightly elevated moisture around the anchor windlass and >> foot pedals. Was an electric windlass a standard install on a C&C44 or >> could this moisture be due to someone cutting a hole themselves without >> isolating the core? >> >> >> >> Thanks everyone, sorry, I know this was a little longer but It'd be great >> to know what I'm dealing with! :) >> >> >> >> Dan >> >> >> >> On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 11:03 PM, Dan <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Sorry if this was sent twice - the first time I tried it I was not >> registered but had no responses... >> >> >> >> I'm looking at a 1986 C&C 44 to buy. Before I get into paying for a >> survey to check the core out with a moisture meter I'm wondering if any 44 >> owners out there have had any problems with wet core? - when you remove >> through hull fittings is the core isolated with solid glass to prevent >> egress or can you visibly see the balsa core layer? >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. 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