I stand corrected. Well done Bruce. I'm still going to be putting mine in reverse. DAMN THE TORPEDOS!
Josh On Mon, Sep 18, 2017, 9:18 PM Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Hi Josh, > > I was really curious when I read about the proper position of the shifter, > and found multiple references of the following advisory purportedly from > Yanmar as follows" > > And for Yanmar/Kanzaki: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Advisory Number: MSA08-003: DATE February 8, 2008 Dealers and OEMs TO: > All Marine <http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/marine.html> > Distributors SUBJECT: Gear in Neutral While Sailing All MODELS: All > Sailboat Engines We continue to get questions regarding the correct gear > position while sailing with the engine OFF. This advisory is issued as a > reminder; Yanmar requires that if sailing with the engine OFF (not running) > the transmission shifter must be in the neutral position or internal damage > to the gear or sail-drive will result. This damage will not be covered by > Yanmar’s Limited Warranty. Please instruct customers and dealers who > deliver the sailboat to the customer, of the correct (Neutral) position for > the marine <http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/marine.html> gear > while sailing. If the customer desires that the propeller > <http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/propeller.html> shaft not spin > while sailing, either a folding propeller, shaft break, or other suitable > device may be used. However, Yanmar accepts no responsibility for the > selection, installation > <http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/installation.html>, or operation > of such devices. Please also refer to Marine service > <http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/service.html> advisory > “MSA07-001_Yanmar Sail Drive Propeller Selection” for additional > information. If you have any questions regarding this advisory please > contact a Customer Support representative." * > > The reason for failure mode, as was describe to me, is that in reverse the > clutch <http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/clutch.html> cones can > chatter, quiver or vibrate against one another causing wear which > eventually leads to slippage and a gear box re-build. Many already know how > difficult a Kanzaki > <http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/kanzaki.html> can be to get out > of reverse after sailing with it locked. > > Here's a quote from the SBO forums > <http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/forums.html>: > Quote: > > Originally Posted by *glengrey* > *Unfortunately I can attest to the proper Yanmar gear position. In the > summer of 2008 my transmission (Kansaki on a 3GM30F engine) started > slipping. Engine had 440 hours. always placed gear in reverse when sailing. > After considerable discussion with Yamnar they advised they would not > consider warranty (was passed the hours for that anyway). Upshot is new > transmission. They advised that the cone clutch > <http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/clutch.html> does "quiver" (my > term) even though locked into reverse, producing wear and eventually > slippage.* > > I don't like believing everything I read on the internet, but I kept > coming across this advisory. > > Hope this helps, > Bruce Whitmore > > (847) 404-5092 (mobile) > bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Josh Muckley via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > *To:* C&C List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > *Cc:* Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Monday, September 18, 2017 9:12 PM > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Transmission position while sailing > > Folding and feathering props can stay open if you don't stop the shaft by > putting it in reverse. With a fixed prop you can reduce drag by "trailing > the shaft" and leaving it in neutral. The problem is that some > transmissions don't get properly lubricated in this condition (IIRC: > paragon?) Reverse should always be fine no matter what > engine/transmission. > > Josh Muckley > S/V Sea Hawk > 1989 C&C 37+ > Solomons, MD > > On Sep 18, 2017 7:16 PM, "schiller via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: > > OK, gang. I know this has been discussed before but help me out. With > the Universal M-25XPB in Corsair, the manuals said to shift he transmission > into reverse after shut down while sailing. Withe the new Yanmar in Grace > (C&C 35, Mark III), what is the prevailing wisdom as to transmission > selection after shutdown while sailing. I instinctively put the > transmission in reverse but can not find any Yanmar documentation as to > what they recommend. > > Neil Schiller > 1983 C&C 35, Mark III, #028 > "Grace" > White Lake, Michigan > Scheduled for haulout 6 October > > ______________________________ _________________ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. 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