It is easier to get than a full ORR weigh and measure, and much cheaper!

Much more work for the RC!

On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 3:44 PM Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Doesn’t sound EZ to me.
>
> *From:* Joel Aronson via CnC-List <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Monday, June 10, 2019 3:11 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List PHRF vs ORR-EZ
>
> Dennis,
>
> ORR EZ is much more sophosticated, using VPP predicitons and ratings for
> different courses and wind conditions.  It should be more fair.
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> On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 2:33 PM Randy Stafford via CnC-List <
> [email protected]> wrote:
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>> Hi Dennis,
>>
>> No experience with ORR-EZ yet, but it looks like another good option by
>> which to score mixed fleet races (i.e. not one-design fleet races).
>>
>> Last year Colorado Sail & Yacht Club experimented with National Handicap
>> for Cruisers (see https://www.rya.org.uk/racing/pages/nhc.aspx).  We
>> still used PHRF as the official scoring system, but also scored the same
>> races by NHC to see the outcome of applying a different scoring system to
>> the same race results.  We could do the same with ORR-EZ.
>>
>> The proponents of this idea were looking for a scoring system that is
>> more “fair” than PHRF.  I liken NHC to golf handicapping: your handicap
>> changes with every scorecard you turn in, conceptually.  So it dynamically
>> reflects variability in weather conditions and crew performance, which a
>> static PHRF rating doesn’t.  ORR-EZ appears to have some similar elements
>> (observed performance factor, configurablity per race course, etc.) which
>> in my opinion are valuable.
>>
>> With a 30 MK I my results in my fleet are generally dependent on wind
>> strength.  The stronger the wind, the better I place, all other things
>> being equal.  In light air boats with less displacement beat me.  It’s
>> almost as if boats should have different ratings for different wind speed
>> ranges.
>>
>> On a related note, my RSA is re-rating all boats in its region this year,
>> and Grenadine’s PHRF rating is likely to come out 12 seconds lower.  But at
>> least one of my competitor’s ratings will stay the same - which exacerbates
>> the above problem, unless we have a really windy season.  I think I’ll
>> start a separate thread on 30 MK I PHRF ratings, because I see 18 seconds
>> variability across RSAs.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Randy
>>
>> > On Jun 10, 2019, at 10:53 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > My handicapping authority, Gulf Yachting Association, like other
>> authorities, is toying with ORR-EZ.  They're scoring some regattas and/or
>> classes under both systems.
>> >
>> > I haven't explored the cost/effort of getting a ORR-EZ certificate
>> yet.  What's folks experience with ORR-EZ so far?
>> >
>> > Dennis C.
>> > Touche' 35-1 #83
>> > Mandeville, LA
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