I also like Rigging Only for line and hardware.  Worth checking before buying.

From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 11:15 AM
To: cnc-list 
Cc: Joel Aronson 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sad day, APS no longer carrying rope or hardware!

Fawcetts is my go-to place for everything except line.  If you need an odd 
fastener, they will have it!  (Recently needed a 12 inch 3/8 stainless machine 
screw and it was in stock!)  Hopefully they will expand their offerings.  
Bacon's has a good selection of NER and Marlow, and focuses on the less 
expensive lines. 

There are a number of lines with cheaper dyneema cores that have less stretch 
than poly, such as Marlow D2 Club.  Much cheaper than D2 Racer and certainly 
more than adequate for sheets.  MLX3 is a dyneema blended core that is nice too.

Joel

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 10:34 AM Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

  I’m discouraged that APS is no longer an outlet for sailboat hardware and 
rigging.  They had a very knowledgeable staff and were a great resource for 
most things relating to sailboat racing.  They were also one of the last 
bastions of supply for one design parts, especially smaller keelboat classes 
such as Etchells, J-24, J-80, and Sonars.  Someone may eventually come along 
and fill the gaps in the supply chain, but how and when is TBD.

  I will say that there’s no shortage of places to buy line and would encourage 
former APS customers to look at Defender,  R&W Rope,  Landfall Navigation, or 
heaven forbid, your local rigger to supply you with the ropes you need for your 
C&C.  I think too many folks gravitate towards the “cheapest” option for buying 
cordage rather than the “best” option, all of which includes getting the right 
rope for the application rather than what’s on sale.  And as Josh discovered, 
the “sale price” of 20% off doesn’t amount to much if the regular price is 
already 20-25% higher than the local sailboat rigger would sell it to you.

  I’ll miss making my annual pilgrimage to APS during the Annapolis Boat Show 
as I always enjoyed checking out the wide selection of cordage and hardware on 
hand at the store.  I do think its cool that Fawcetts is stepping up to service 
the performance sailors in Nap Town.  They’ve always been a high quality outlet 
for marine goods, but never much on servicing the racers in the past.

  Chuck Gilchrest

  S/V Half Magic

  1983 35 Landfall

  Padanaram, MA

  From: CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> On Behalf Of Josh Muckley via 
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  Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 2:48 PM
  To: C&C List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
  Cc: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com>
  Subject: Stus-List Sad day, APS no longer carrying rope or hardware!



  So I'm in the market for new jib sheets and my goto Annapolis Performance 
Sailing at APDLTD.COM keeps throwing 404 errors.  I call them up a describe the 
problem hoping that they can simply make the order over the phone.  The 
associate tells me that they no longer carry cordage of any type!  She goes on 
to tell me that they also no longer sell ANY hardware and no longer perform 
rigging services!  I ask, what do you carry? and she says, apparel/accessories 
only.  I was completely dumbfounded since they had seemingly had such a large 
presence in the sailing community, both locally and on the internet.  I 
expressed my disappointment and wished them luck with the new business model.



  Upon hanging up, I called Fawcett's which has a very limited internet 
presence but phenomenal staff and selection.  Joe was extremely helpful, he 
ordered a spool of cordage just for me, and had the 100' I needed cut, whipped 
and shipped at a better price than that of West Marine Pro (which gave ~20% 
discount).  The price comparison was close and I will have to wait 2 weeks for 
them to get the spool but I'm not in a big rush and keeping the local business 
is valuable to me.



  Josh Muckley 

  S/V Sea Hawk 

  1989 C&C 37+

  Solomons, MD 

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