David
PHRF ratings in Narr Bay are done on the apparent design performance of
specific class variants (Mk-1, Mk-2, dk, cb, tm, etc} and then any of
the boat's modifications that are shown on that boats PHRF application
(weight reduction, sail areas, etc.) This is compared to other boats
racing on Narragansett Bay, not to other venues. The rating committee
assumes the boat is well prepared, equipment, bottom, sails, crew,...
Looking at the PHRF-NB ratings for C&C 40s I can only see one 40 rated
in the last few years, a C&C 40 Mk2 tm dk with no direct comparison
rated in NE. However scanning the ratings I do find that Narr Bay's
rating for the 40s about 3sec slower compared to NE.
Don Kern
Fireball C&C 35 Mk2
Bristol RI
On 12/16/2019 12:48 PM, David Risch via CnC-List wrote:
This does not explain why my 40's base rating is slower in a light
air venue (Narragansett) and faster in breezy venue (Buzzards Bay)
when the boat historically is a faster light air boat.
One of the reasons I only race long distance vs. Chasing my tail
around buoys.
Too subjective even at base.
Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you.
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*From:* CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> on behalf of CHARLES
SCHEAFFER via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
*Sent:* Monday, December 16, 2019 9:19:42 AM
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
*Cc:* CHARLES SCHEAFFER <cscheaf...@comcast.net>; Michael Brown
<m...@tkg.ca>
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List PHRF Reviews and Adjustments
My two cents; With hundreds of boats to rate, I wouldn't expect the
rating committees to make any rating adjustment unless there was a
serious complaint or an appeal to get their attention, and some good
solid race results to make a judgement. Someone I know asked for an
appeal to raise his rating and was denied. He had to answer a list of
questions that revealed he had older sails, inexperienced crew, and
never scrubbed the bottom of his boat during the racing season. The
rating assumes you have properly prepared the boat to race, have
decent sails, and knowledgeable crew and clean bottom.
Does anyone race in a fleet where they give a handicap for solo
sailors? I heard San Francisco gives 13 seconds.
Chuck, Resolute 1989 C&C 34R
On December 16, 2019 at 12:08 AM Randy Stafford via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
Thank you all for the responses on this subject. I got information I
was looking for:
* The Gulf Yachting Association PHRF Committee conducts an annual
review. The minutes of the most recent annual review show +3/-3
adjustments based on performance.
* The Narragansett Bay PHRF Committee reviews boat performance
regularly. Its principles state that handicaps are adjusted on the
basis of the boat's performance.
* At Shawn Wright's club (somewhere in British Columbia), the club
handicapper provides a rating and it is reviewed after each series of
races based on results.
* In PHRF Lake Ontario, classes that consistently perform differently
from their rating get reviewed by PHRF-LO Central Council every year.
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