Hi Matt,

What I mean is my boat has a spinnaker pole, mast ring on track, topping lift, 
pole downhaul deck hardware, etc.  What do you mean pole gizmos?  :)

Interesting that you use your spin pole at the tack of your asym if I 
understood correctly.  Can you keep it low enough with the pole downhaul?  My 
spin pole doesn’t extend forward of the stem - I can dip gybe with it.

Cheers,
Randy

> On May 15, 2020, at 11:01 AM, Matt Wolford via CnC-List 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Randy:
> 
>       What do you mean when you say "rigged"?  I have an asym, but I just use 
> my spin pole set all the way forward and as low as possible.  Do you have one 
> of those pole gizmos?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CnC-List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Randy Stafford 
> via CnC-List
> Sent: Friday, May 15, 2020 12:36 PM
> To: cnc-list <[email protected]>
> Cc: Randy Stafford <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Tacking Down an Asym on a 30 MK I
> 
> Hi Mike,
> 
> Yes Grenadine is rigged for symmetrical spinnaker and I fly it in some races. 
>  I’m still at a disadvantage in speed of setting sails without furlers.
> 
> I would be surprised if TSL would need to be greater than 13.5’!
> 
> Cheers,
> Randy
> 
>> On May 15, 2020, at 10:28 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Randy
>> 
>> You may take a rating hit for having a sprit on the boat for this.  The 
>> measurement will be Total Sprit Length (TSL) and if that exceeds J there is 
>> usually an adjustment.
>> 
>> Have you considered a symmetrical spinnaker?  The 30 was designed for one 
>> and the downwind angles would clobber a Ranger 28 flying an asym tacked at 
>> bow.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Mike Hoyt
>> Persistence
>> Halifax, NS
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: CnC-List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Randy Stafford 
>> via CnC-List
>> Sent: May 15, 2020 1:23 PM
>> To: cnc-list <[email protected]>
>> Cc: Randy Stafford <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Stus-List Tacking Down an Asym on a 30 MK I
>> 
>> Listers-
>> 
>> A guy in my yacht club has started an arms race by adding an asym with a 
>> top-down furler to his Ranger 28.  Wednesday night in light air I beat him 
>> to the windward mark by a minute or two, then he hoisted his asym and 
>> dropped me like a bad habit.  He beat me by five minutes corrected time in a 
>> one-hour race despite spotting me 12 sec/mile with his new adjusted rating 
>> (demonstrating yet again that ratings don’t necessarily account for 
>> performance differences).  It was an eye-opening demonstration.
>> 
>> So now I’m thinking I need an asym to compete.  I know a guy who flew one on 
>> a 30 MK I.  He welded a bracket forward of the stem, to fasten a tack line 
>> block, and had a sock instead of a furler.  If I want to compete with this 
>> Ranger 28, I’ll have to add two furlers (one on the forestay and one for the 
>> asym) to be able to set sails as fast as him.  So I can’t just shackle an 
>> asym tack line block to the spare headsail shackle on the stem, and 
>> hoist/douse the asym using a sock.  I need a tack point forward of the stem 
>> to accommodate a furler.
>> 
>> Thus my question to you listers: any experience with adding a bowsprit or 
>> bracket etc. to your C&C for tacking down an asymmetrical spinnaker?  I did 
>> some reading last night on after-market bowsprits (e.g. Selden), but of 
>> course wanted to check with the collective wisdom on Stu’s list.  Any advice 
>> or recommendations?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Randy Stafford
>> S/V Grenadine
>> C&C 30 MK I #79
>> Ken Caryl, CO
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