I'll bet you the reason there is water in the chain locker, is the angle of
the boat. In our yard, the dockmasters have always had this bent towards
blocking the boats in a bow up attitude, they say for drainage. I have been
unable to convince them that boats are designed to drain as they sit in the
water, level, and when they start messing with that, water pools where it
shouldn't .   They start rolling their eyes when I pull out my level, and
start putting it on the waterline to try and get it level.\

Bill Coleman
Entrada, Erie PA


On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 1:51 PM rjcasciato--- via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi Matt. My Bruckman 38 MKII has the very same limber hole problem....
> Itried yo get at them from the other side, but the ones at the bulkhead
> chainplate locker are closed off with cabinetry.
> After this discussion, after I confirm that they are even open, I will try
> the poured epoxy idea from the esrlier video. That chainplate locker has
> the hull on the outside, I don't want to chance redrilling the holes and
> going through the hull.
> But this thread puts the project on my spring list.
> Just a note, I was required to have my boat surveyed this past November
> for insurance coverage. Besides nut reading the expiration dates of my
> flares and noting that one of my batteries wasn't secured???? He noted that
> there wss water at the bottom of my chain plate lockers....
> They are usually dry, which I suppose means that they eventually drain,
> but he surved the boat out of the water and in the second day of rain......
> Thanks guys for the comments now on my list.
> Ron C.
>
> On Jan 26, 2023 1:06 PM, Matt Wolford via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
>
> I like it, too.  However, drilling out copper tubes in tight locations
> seems like a burdensome way to go.  I suspect he’s correct about why the
> holes were not placed flush (the drill getting in the way), but this could
> have been easily remedied by drilling up from downhill of the hole where
> there’s a lot more room to maneuver.  The fact that they didn’t do that
> suggests either: a) there’s a problem with doing that I have yet to
> discover; or b) who cares if puddles of water accumulate here and there –
> get the boat out the door and start building the next one.
>
>
>
> After the weather warms up a bit, I will try re-orienting a limber hole
> using Joel’s suggested approach and see how it goes.  I’ll report back to
> let you know how it goes.  In the meantime, if any of you can think of an
> easier or better way (like my poured epoxy idea?), let me know.  Thanks.
>
>
>
> Matt
>
>
>
> *From:* Richard Bush <bushma...@aol.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 26, 2023 11:34 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* wolf...@erie.net
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Re: Limber Holes
>
>
>
>   I like Joel's suggestion; opening up the hole down to the hull surface,
> then putting sealer or epoxy in replacement of the tubing to keep the water
> from soaking into the hull...; my personal solution is an assortment of
> sponges and turkey basters....
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> s/v Bushmark4; 1085 C&C 37 CB: Ohio River, Mile 596;
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard N. Bush Law Offices
>
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
>
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220
>
> (502) 584-7255
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Wolford via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> To: 'Stus-List' <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Cc: wolf...@erie.net
> Sent: Thu, Jan 26, 2023 11:07 am
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Limber Holes
>
> Good suggestion, but I think the holes are lined with copper tubing or
> something to transport the water.  I could re-construct each limber hole,
> but I’m hoping for a simpler solution.
>
>
>
> *From:* Joel Aronson via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 26, 2023 11:01 AM
> *To:* Stus-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *Cc:* Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Stus-List Re: Limber Holes
>
>
>
> Dremel with a flex shaft to lower the holes?
>
>
>
> Joel
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 10:50 AM Matt Wolford via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Chuck.  I’m good about keeping a reasonably dry bilge.  In
> addition, because I’m at a dock with electricity, I keep a dehumidifier on
> board as well as fan to constantly circulate air.  I rarely encounter a
> mold issue.  However, I do have small puddles of sitting water just above
> the limber holes in concealed areas (below the floorboards).  If water
> doesn’t drain through the limber hole, it never reaches the bilge.  That’s
> the problem I’m trying to solve.
>
>
>
> *From:* CHARLES SCHEAFFER <cscheaf...@comcast.net>
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 26, 2023 10:10 AM
> *To:* Stus-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>; Ronald B. Frerker <
> rbfrer...@yahoo.com>
> *Cc:* Martin DeYoung <martin.deyo...@outlook.com>; wolf...@erie.net
> *Subject:* Limber Holes
>
>
>
> The limber holes on my boat have the same problem.    They probably
> couldn't make the holes any lower because the drill body drill chuck would
> hit the floor before the drill bit.   I found a clean bilge makes the boat
> smell fresh, so I wet/vac the bilge periodically to stay ahead of
> problems.  I keep a small 5gallon wet/vac in a dockbox and do this every
> few months and it makes a big difference, reducing bilge odor and mold in
> the cabin, takes less than twenty minutes.
>
>
>
> FWIW, Here's a video showing how another owner added slope to improve
> drainage in a chainlocker.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqAf1gIK9r0
>
>
>
> Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C&C 34R, Annapolis
>
>
>
> On 01/26/2023 8:56 AM Matt Wolford via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Martin:
>
>
>
>                 Question for a fellow Bruckmann “stick” boat owner (or
> anyone else with a suggestion): when Bruckmann built boats, limber holes
> were installed in most of the needed locations.  However, the bottoms of
> the limber holes are rarely flush with the area being drained.  As a
> result: a) water accumulates uphill of the limber hole until the level
> reaches the bottom of the hole, then drains; and b) as a result, there is
> always some water sitting in the area being drained.  A prior owner
> attempted to address this by placing Bondo filler above the limber holes.
> However, the surface of the Bondo is irregular (again holding small amounts
> of water), and water can work its way between the Bondo and the hull
> undetected (worse).  Plus it looks very unprofessional.  I was thinking
> about removing the Bondo, grinding the paint off on the interior hull
> surface underneath, putting a cork or something in the limber hole, and
> pouring an epoxy mixture into the area until it reaches the bottom of the
> limber hole.
>
>
>
>                 Has anyone tried something like this?
>
>
>
>                 Matt
>
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