On 10.Oct.2002 -- 11:50 PM, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
> Piroumian Konstantin wrote:
> Now, follow me:
> 
>  1) from the user's point of view, input modules act as namespaced 
> sitemap variables (you said that)

If used in sitemap, yes. In gereral they are arbitrary data sources.

>  2) that means that just like the user knows that type="xslt" will 
> match the transformer associated with 'xslt', the variable 
> {request:skin} will match the 'skin' attribute in the input module named 
> 'request'
> 
> so, question:
> 
>  why aren't you declaring them in the sitemap?

Because they are not only relevant to the sitemap and declaration of
general components in the sitemap was considered bad.

> also
> 
>  why not calling them something more specific than InputModules?
> 
> Take a look at this
> 
> <map:sitemap>
> <map:components>
>  ...
>  <map:expanders>
>   <map:expander name="A" src="..."/>
>   <map:expander name="B" src="..."/>
>  </map:expanders>
>  ...
> </map:components>

OK, although I don't like the name. <map:inputs><map:input .../></map:inputs> 
would IMO be better.

> <map:expanders-sets>
>  <map:expander-set name="blah">
>   <map:expand type="A"/>
>   <map:expand type="B"/>
>  </map:expander-set>
> </map:expander-sets>

Since you can stack them as you like (if they support it, that is), it
does not make sense to have a special syntax for it. InputModules that
can be composed of others ('meta') differ in no way from 'normal'
ones. So there is no need for a special block.

> isn't it more precisely describing what you want to achieve?

No. It changes a name and not for the better and places the
declaration to a place were SoC is breached. What really is needed is
multiple xconfs. Most (all?) sitemap components should be in a local
xconf. Until then, it should stay in the one that we have.

It probably doesn't add anything to this discussion, but maybe this
illustrates some aspects.
http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/userdocs/concepts/modules.html

BTW did someone notice, that these thingies that we spend so much time
about now are in CVS since Q1 02??

        Chris.
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