Great. Thanks for the information. However the questions are still thick as pea soup.
If I don't want to deploy all the cocoon jars in my war, I have to put them somewhere. It has been suggested that I put them in the tomcat lib directory. Ok fine, then how does one configure it? My goal is to end up with a hello-world war that looks like myapp.war --> META-INF -->--> MANIFEST.MF -->WEB-INF -->--> web.xml (NOT a 40 meg file) -->--> jboss-web.xml -->--> classes -->-->--> my action or generator classes. --> XSL -->--> My stlye sheets. --> XSD -->--> My schema --> Other static files. --> my sitemap Now Id like to have a war that is THAT small and without having to have an intimate knowledge of cocoon to accomplish it. I want all the framework configs out of my way. I want all of the options and jars and so on neatly tucked away and where I can just drop them in a directory and forget about them. I'm seeking USER based simplicity and haven't found it yet. If I had time from my busy schedule I would potentially join the development effort to get this user simplicity but unfortunately joining cocoon and learning its development wont pay my electric bills. I have a book to write and the interface to my server for my book should be superfluous, not massively complex. The book is about the server side and I only need the interact to demonstrate what I'm doing on the server side. -- Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julian Klein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 7:58 PM Subject: Re: Cocoon is complex, but worth it! Some Answers to your dilemma > First off I made some suggestions to your > questions/problems below...skip ahead if you don't > want my commentary on Cocoon. > > Well it seems to me that when I started with Cocoon, I > was hoping to jump right on in. Unfortunately, it was > not that easy, but not b/c of Cocoon, rather my > limited knowledge of xpath and xsl functions. Anyway, > I tackled these problems by studying the applications > samples packaged with cocoon and reading the > documentation. It may be discouraging, but anything > worthwhile can't be done overnight, right? Anyway, as > I work more and more with Cocoon, I am amazed by the > genius of it's architecture. Cocoon is certainly a > tribute to Open Source and the greatness of those out > there working on and contributing to it. Stick to it > and you will be repaid. > > > > ************************************************ > It seems if you have a servlet working, you must be > looking to upgrade. So you should not be looking for > an overnight solution, which is easy with all the > options out there. Overall, the advice I can give is > you must consider: > > 1)Are you going to use Cocoon for more than just a > replacement for your servlet? > > 2)What technologies do you want to use: XSP,XSLT,etc. > > 3)You do not need to build from the CVS source, you > can just download a pre-built version from the site > (nightly or major release) > http://xml.apache.org/dist/cocoon/ > > 4)You may not need to create a new transformer, but > perhaps just make an action. > http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/userdocs/concepts/actions.html > > 5)You prob need a minimal sitemap(see below) to match > your url requests to your data. No need to worry > about the endless options now. The beauty is you will > learn them as you go and find that Cocoon has almost > everything you could ever need. > > 6)Look over the user's guide and study some of the > sitemaps packages with Cocoon. > > I hope this makes some sense. If not, I 'm sorry, but > I feel as if Cocoon is a great way to go if you want > to do more than just replace your serlvlet. With all > the users, developers, wiki, documentation, and > mailing lists...you will almost always get an answer. > Whether or not it makes sense ;-) ! I attached a > basic sitemap to get you going... > > -Julian > > <?xml version="1.0"?> > <map:sitemap > xmlns:map="http://apache.org/cocoon/sitemap/1.0";> > > <!-- =========================== Components > =================================== --> > > <map:components> > <map:generators default="file"/> > > <map:transformers default="xslt"/> > > <map:readers default="resource"/> > > <map:serializers default="html"> > <map:serializer logger="sitemap.serializer.xml" > mime-type="text/xml" name="xml" > > src="org.apache.cocoon.serialization.XMLSerializer"/> > > <map:serializer logger="sitemap.serializer.html" > mime-type="text/html" name="html" > pool-grow="4" pool-max="32" > pool-min="4" > > src="org.apache.cocoon.serialization.HTMLSerializer"> > <buffer-size>1024</buffer-size> > </map:serializer> > </map:serializers> > > <map:matchers default="wildcard"/> > > <map:selectors default="browser"/> > > </map:components> > > > <!-- =========================== Pipelines > ================================= --> > <map:pipelines> > <map:pipeline> > <map:match pattern="**"> > <!-- ========================= Dynamic Content > ================================--> > <map:match pattern="viewHTML/**"> > <map:generate src="myXMLDataSource"/> > <map:transform src="myXSLSheet"/> > <map:serialize type="html"/> > </map:match> > <map:match pattern="viewXML/**"> > <map:generate src="myXMLDataSource"/> > <map:transform src="myXSLSheet"/> > <map:serialize type="xml"/> > </map:match> > <!-- ========================= Static Content > =====================================--> > <map:match pattern="viewStaticHTML"> > <map:read src="static.html"/> > </map:match> > > <map:match pattern="**images/*.png"> > <map:read src="images/{2}.png" > mime-type="image/png"/> > </map:match> > > <map:match pattern="**images/*.jpg"> > <map:read src="images/{2}.jpg" > mime-type="image/jpeg"/> > </map:match> > > <map:handle-errors> > <map:transform > src="context://task/stylesheets/error2html.xsl"/> > <map:serialize status-code="500"/> > </map:handle-errors> > > </map:pipeline> > </map:pipelines> > </map:sitemap> > > ===== > Live simply so others may simply live. > > -Ghandi > > Pluralitas non est ponenda sine neccesitate. > "Entities should not be multiplied unneccesarily" > > -William of Occam > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! 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