I find eclipse to be a bit too "pushy" for my tastes. The NetBeans platform is a bit more open. In addition the eclipse XML editor is a little primitive. The NetBeans one at least closes tags and offers various other functionality. Additionally the eclipse release schedule is almost wholly managed by IBM which makes it a hit or miss thing. The last straw is the relatively limited plug-in availability for eclipse. It took me hours just to find a site with a full eclipse module catalog.
The only other comment I have is that I'm still searching for a content editor for Static XML. I'm currently investigating using adobe FrameMaker. The idea being that I would have a WYSIWYG way of editing documents that any one of my clients could use and I could write XSLT processors to convert that to the web format using cocoon. Right now the current XML editors are too primitive. Usable for a programmer but for a corporate document jockey, no chance. -- Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 12:46 PM Subject: A note about the "best(?) (cocoon-) development environment" ... > Hy, all; > > During the last months of activities i learned a lot from this mailing > list. while i followed the discussions i started getting my development > environment a bit up to date. I plan to setup a Wiki page on this > theme. Although this may be a bit off topic, it still would be great, > if someone could comment on this issue. > > > the tools collection > -------------------- > Here is what i have put together so far. Of course this is driven > at least partially by what i do for my customers... > > free tools: > 1.) OS: linux and solaris (maybe a mater of taste) > 2.) apache 1.3.26 (mod_jk2, mod_SSL) > 3.) tomcat 4.1.18 > 4.) cocoon-2.0.4 > 5.) eclipse > 6.) sunbow eclipse tools (xml/sitemap) > 7.) ant > 8.) java-1.3.1 (sun JDK on all platforms) > 9.) Secureway LDAP Server (i'll switch to Open LDAP soon) > > commercial tools: > 10.) clearcase cms (see below) > 11.) xml-spy > 12.) several DB-Systems > > notes about the collection > -------------------------- > > * All tools mentioned above fit tightly together. > I use apache/tomcat since about three years now. > The above combination also works fine with SSL. > > * After i got eclipse setup in tomcat debugging mode, > i could at least double my productivity. > Thanks to the tomcat site it was a matter of seconds to > get it up see: > > http://jakarta.apache.org/site/idedev-rdtomcat.html > > * I also managed to setup eclipse with Cocoon in less than 10 > minutes. OK, i did a lousy trick, but for debugging and > learning how cocoon internals work it's absolutley > satisfying... > > * about SCM in general and Clearcase in particular: > Clearcase is a quite expensive and known to be very slow > SCM tool. On the other hand it is super easy to integrate. > Due to exposing the data within a "virtual filesystem" you > just don't see it from the users viewpoint (except checkin > checkout your files). > Having the clearcase integration kit for eclipse up and > running comes near to a developers dream. I hope, after > Rational has been incorporated into IBM, clearcase or a > derivate of it will eventually find it's way into the > ongoing eclipse efforts to build just another SCM. See > > http://www.eclipse.org/technology/index.html > follow the link to "stellation" at the bottom of the page. > > Another interesting new SCM could be subversion from > > http://subversion.tigris.org/ ... > > All of these SCM's provide directory versioning > (something once you got it, you'll never want to miss again...) > > * I happen to use XML-Spy since a couple of years now. > Maybe i just got used to it. I like it, although i have > to pay for the license. At least it helps me getting > my XSCHEMA's generated in no time. > > > My personal SAXESS story ... > ---------------------------- > SAXESS stands for "System AXESS", just to get this clear;-) > I write this down, mainly because i got very very satisfied > with this especially when i compare this to what i was used > to in former times when open source was something, nobody > ever heard of... > > I'm running my webserver on some linux box and my webapps > on solaris driven by tomcat. All of my code is dropped > into a company wide multiplatform SCM system. I'm developing > with the eclipse IDE right on my Desktop machine. I'm running > Cocoon for the visualisation part of my projects. This is just > a great XML publishing tool, and i'm still only using the > basics of it for now. By saving my work to the SCM, > my testwebapp gets autodeployed on a solaris box, which > happens to be our testenvironment. I can setup remote debuggig > sessions from my desktop directly into the heart of my > webapplications... > Once i checked in my work into the SCM, my webapp gets > autodeployed on linux, which happens to be our website > server. And i bet, after fiddeling around a bit, i could > setup a debugging session on my customers site, while sitting > somewhere at a beach, quickfix a bug, and then turn back to > the real life just beeing happy for the rest of the day... > > A personal thank to the Open Source comunity > -------------------------------------------- > Folks, Thank you very much all you, who have contributed to get > such a powerfull toolset up and running. I just get very excited > seeing this developer's dream becoming reality... > And sad enough i'm not sitting at a beach, but in > "good ol'e germany" getting to much rain and too > few sun (solaris is not good for everything...). > > thanks for your attention, if your patience lasted until here ;-) > > regards, Hussayn > > -- > Dr. Hussayn Dabbous > SAXESS Software Design GmbH > Neuenhöfer Allee 125 > D-50935 Köln > tel.:+49 221 56011 0 > fax.:+49 221-56011 20 > email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Please check that your question has not already been answered in the > FAQ before posting. <http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. <http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html> To unsubscribe, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
