D Chudnov wrote:
1) we could have found someplace
2) this is a problem either way
3) this is a problem either way
4) a few days' downtime is one thing - a few weeks' is another.
Yes, I believe everyone realizes this is a problem. That is why everyone
has been talking about figuring out a solution. The OSU proposal was
deemed the best available solution yesterday in a discussion, but that
doesn't mean you can't propose other ones.
If you think you need to convince everyone that the current situation is
a problem, I think you are tilting at windmills. Everyone is convinced.
Jonathan
2. Are there offsite backups of the www.code4lib.org site - its files
and database?
Yes, and they live on my machine at work.
Let's set up a second backup of your backup? I'll take a copy, and
add another to s3 for safer-keeping.
3. The discussion seemed to only involve one proposal. There wasn't
a call for any other proposals, and it wasn't clear to me that by
missing this meeting (i was at a gathering with several other people
with an interest in anvil and other things c4l) that I would miss out
on any opportunity to have input. I'd like to propose a different
hosting plan. Shouldn't there be a chance for more discussion here?
Who's stopping you? We announced a 'town hall meeting', nobody
publicly dissented on the mailing list. We're 'discussing' now,
you're complaining but not articulating an alternative. You mentioned
ibiblio in channel, but until something tangible is offered, the
Oregon State offer meets the 'one in hand is worth two in the bush'
criteria.
Nobody is stopping me. I was offline all weekend, and busy otherwise,
and it wasn't clear to me whether this was a done deal already.
I'm not complaining, I'm just seeking clarification. In a
complainy-sounding way.
I understand that some of these questions might seem to be coming a
bit late, and I'm sorry to be in a position where my jerkiness is all
the worse because of it. But I still think these are questions that
need answers.
I don't think anything has been 'decided'. We had a meeting, OSU
stepped forward, nobody present objected. www.code4lib.org is still
'down'.
I propose that we move hosting of www.code4lib.org to ibiblio if
they'll have us. They've been there for 15(+?) years, they are there
for exactly this purpose, and they're not for-profit. I've had good
luck hosting things there, and they're liberal about accounts, so long
as you don't prove to be an idiot. To support this I'd be happy to
sign up for support duties.
Separately I can bring up an emergency/temporary backup of the
www.code4lib.org site if it is not otherwise possible before the end
of the week. I'm in transit all day tomorrow, but let me know by
first thing friday
-Dan
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Jonathan Rochkind
Digital Services Software Engineer
The Sheridan Libraries
Johns Hopkins University
410.516.8886
rochkind (at) jhu.edu
