exactly. (also, my xml snippet was badly formed (fixed below), but
you got the idea.
On Oct 2, 2007, at 10:03 AM, Jonathan Rochkind wrote:
Nice. So in SAP2, you can in fact list more than one author with
component elements seperated out (aulast and aufirst). But in SAP one,
you can't. rft.aufirst and rft.aulast (etc) are not repeatable in
SAP1.
Which makes some sense, because associating a particular first name
with
a particular last name would get hairy.
Thanks for the explanation.
Jonathan
Eric Hellman wrote:
In SAP1:
rft.au=Eric+Hellman&rft.au=Jonathan+Rochkind etc.
In SAP2:
<rft:authors>
<rft:author>
<rft:aulast>Hellman</rft:aulast>
<rft:aufirst>Eric</rft:aufirst>
</rft:author>
<rft:author>
<rft:aulast>Rochkind</rft:aulast>
<rft:aufirst>Jonathan</rft:aufirst>
</rft:author>
</rft:authors>
The two profiles we designed, as you say to identify a citation. The
Z39.88 standard was also designed to be extensible. It was hoped that
communities that identified other needs would design new metadata
formats to address those needs, and then add profiles to the registry
which would define how to make ContextObjects that conformed to the
new profiles.
On Sep 28, 2007, at 2:24 PM, Jonathan Rochkind wrote:
Can you tell me how to legally include more than one author name in
an OpenURL context object? I've been a bit confused about this
myself, and happen to be dealing with it presently too.
And of course no metadata format has 'all metadata fields', but the
interestingly point here is that while SAP1/2 does have a pretty
good set of elements neccessary to _identify_ a citation (it's
intended purpose), it is missing a few really important elements
for a general purpose citation metadata format to be used for
anything in addition to identification. Multiple authors names
(seperated into firstname/lastname/etc elements) being one of the
primary ones important for just about any citation application that
_isn't_ limited to identification. Abstract being another useful
for a wide variety of applications.
It's a bit frustrating to me, because it seems to me that with just
a few added things, SAP1/2 _could_ be sufficient for a much wider
range of applications than it is now. Of course, maybe it just
seems that way, in the sense that no matter how much you have it
always seems like you need 'just one more'. :)
Jonathan
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Eric Hellman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 9/28/2007 1:10 PM >>>
On Sep 27, 2007, at 9:59 PM, Steve Toub wrote:
A reminder that the data model for OpenURL/COinS does not have all
metadata fields: only one author allowed, no abstract, etc.
That's incorrect; an Openurl context object may contain any
number of
author names. (but not parsed author names).
And to be fair, there exists no metadata format that has "all
metadata fields".
Eric
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The Sheridan Libraries
Johns Hopkins University
410.516.8886
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