We do just fine minting our URIs at LC, Andy. But we do appreciate your concern.

The analysis of our MODS URIs misses the point, I'm afraid. Let's forget the set I cited (bad example) and assume that the schema is replicated at several locations (geographically dispersed) all of which are planned to house the specific version permanently. The suggestion to designate one as cannonical is a good suggestion but it isn't always possible (for various reasons, possibly political). So I maintain that in this scenario you have several *location* none of which serves well as an identifier. I'm not arguing (here) that info is better than http (for this scenario) just that these are not good identifiers.

--Ray

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From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of
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[CODE4LIB] registering info: uris?)

The general convention is that "http://"; is a web address, a location.
I
realize that it's also a form of URI, but that's a minority use of
http.
This leads to a great deal of confusion. I understand the desire to use
domain names as a way to create unique, managed identifiers, but the
http part is what is causing us problems.

http:// is an HTTP URI, defined by RFC 3986, loosely I will agree that
it is a web addresss.  However, it is not a location.  URIs according
to RFC 3986 are just tokens to identify resources.  These tokens, e.g.,
URIs are presented to protocol mechanisms as part of the dereferencing
process to locate and retrieve a representation of the resource.

People see http: and assume that it means the HTTP protocol so it must
be a locator.  Whoever initially registered the HTTP URI scheme could
have used "web" as the token instead and we would all be doing:
<web://example.org/>.  This is the confusion.  People don't understand
what RFC 3986 is saying.  It makes no claim that any URI registered
scheme has persistence or can be dereferenced.  An HTTP URI is just a
token to identify some resource, nothing more.


Andy.

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