Dan Chudnov wrote:
On Mar 2, 2010, at 8:18 PM, Ziso, Ya'aqov wrote:
Many institutions would consider Canada an international conference, and most likely would allow (if any!?) one. My 5 cents (and that's all left in the budget), Ya'aqov
Yeah, exactly, I might run into the same thing. In the past few years I've taken
vacation for c4lc and gone on my own dime... and it can be quite pricey for a US federal
employee to fly outside the country (see "Fly America Act") so I don't do it
often. Seriously, you don't want to know how bad it can be.
Yes, despite some American's belief that Canada is the 51st state, a
co-worker from Nova Scotia occasionally reminds me that it is not.
International travel is an issue at some (many?) institutions,
especially in bad economic times.
Edward
I could probably take time off again and cobble together a train ride (empire
builder!) and a rental car in seattle and do it all on the cheap, which is how
I got to Access '03 in Vancouver, but, yeah, none of you care about my
problems. :)
-----Original Message-----
From: Code for Libraries on behalf of Jonathan Rochkind
Sent: Tue 3/2/2010 8:00 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2011 Proposals
Why would the fact that they are both in Canada make you (or anyone
else) have to choose between them? I'm not following. One is in Feb,
one is in (what?) September. If you can go to two confs one in Feb and
one in Sep when one is in somewhere in Canada and one is in somewhere in
the US... why can't you go to two when they're both in Canada? I'm not
following.
Dan Chudnov wrote:
On Mar 2, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Michael J. Giarlo wrote:
Should be long enough after C4LN and between Access conferences so as
not to interfere.
I'd encourage the Vancouver contingent to put forward its proposal; if
it gets the most votes, the community has spoken.
I agree about putting forward the proposal, and the voting, and not conflicting
with C4LN, but not about Access. I have a few concerns about the idea of
code4libcon in Vancouver. When the vote comes, though, if it's the only
option, well, there we'll be.
Just to air said concerns... maybe this should be on the conf list but the
thread's here, so, whatever.
(a) I don't want to have to choose between code4lib and Access and if they're
both in Canada I might have to choose; Access would win. This concern is one
of the reasons we didn't try a code4libcon before 2006, though maybe the number
of us who share this concern is small.
(b) of the five code4libcons we've had, the ones that have been the most fun to me have
been the ones in smaller towns (corvallis, athens, asheville) where we're more likely to
stumble into other attendees as the evening... uh... "progresses". Vancouver
would be the biggest host city yet. It's a great town and I'd love to return there but
it's not small by any measure.
(c) in early years we emphasized keeping code4libcon cheap and have continued
to succeed at that by using sponsorships to keep the registration fee low.
It's good to be able to draw in students and people who are interested but not
directly supported or who might choose to go on their own dime. These past two
years the conf hotel rate has crept up some, with a good block rate but still
well over $100/night. Vancouver's a more expensive town than any we've been in
before, so I'd worry we'd be shutting some people out. I think there's been
some kind of lower cost hotel or hostel option in every town, and surely there
would be in Vancouver, but in a bigger town that means people are spread out
more and then my concern (b) gets amplified, too.
All that said, it's not like I'm putting in a hosting proposal, so, right, go
VANOC^H^HC4LC!
-Dan
p.s. if we could try out a "lightning talk cross" session where four people
talk all at the same time, i'm in for sure.
