On Sat, Jul 27, 2002 at 02:43:11AM -0400, Py Fivestones wrote:

> Doesn't that pretty much destroy the concept behind IRC, that is to allow 
> people to chat with each other? Also, don't people on a channel have the 
> right to see who they are keeping company, and thus being associated with? 

The mode under discussion is only for use for very large channels (and if
implemented would probably only be settable on channels at least 500 users
or something).  Under these circumstances the points you mention are less
important (particularly if without the mode the users can't stay on the
network!).

> The other question is, will this channel mode break IRC clients?

If the implementation works as I envisage it, not really.  There would be
users on the channel that the ircd knows about but the client doesn't, but
there is no way for the client to find out about them anyway (they can't
talk or anything, and nick changes etc. would be supressed).  Enabling ops
to see all channel members would allow bots to function normally, too.

splidge

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