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istari wrote:
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> >As these "new agers" say, that we are controlled by FEAR, that's a quite
> >fact, very hard to find any denial to that...
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> Whats the opposition to fear ?
Love. Unconditional love.
Bit hard to explain, but
I mean here LOVE as it is in it's pure form, unconditional.
Love, understood as passionful romance between two persons, usually
means _conditional_ love:
"I love you _because_..." - actually meaning you feel attracted to
another's personality features what you like to have within yourself,
and you get annoyed about other one's features, because you don't like
those things in yourself.
This kind of love is always selfish, it filtrates thru EGO, not from
your SELF.
Our ego is a very powerful and very sophisticated self-defense-system,
it's main motive is to protect us, keep us alive. It's functionality is
based on fear, whenever fear has been sensed, ego starts working at
once.
As long as you haven't found love withIN yourself, you try to fulfill
yourself by looking it from outside, and when you're doing this, you get
vulnerable, because you have to expose yourself. And because of that,
there is uncertainty and fear, and there is your ego.
So these selfish-based love-relationships are actually romances of EGOs,
not true personalities.
And what are we looking for in this world? A fulfillment. Our other
primary driving force is trying to get ourself WHOLE. We are taught by
our culture (or markets...) that love is a great goal to achieve, but if
you cannot manage to get a good romantic relationship, you can always
BUY some stuff as a substitute, or fill your time with whatever
activities (or drugs), to avoid that awful feeling that you need
something, what you cannot explain, but still feel the *need*.
(well, novadays gone even deeper, message of media is:
love is equal to sex)
And when you trying to get into a relationship, you must be sexy, you
must look good, you must wear trendy clothes etc.,
otherwise you're a looser...
And your ego does not want to be a looser...
So, at the bottom, there is fear.
Fear of getting abandoned.
Fear that no one loves you.
Fear that you cannot receive any love.
Sounds like this considers only little children - but have you filled
your little child's needs?
Sounds like psychological crap, but how certain you are about origins of
your emotions and motives and behavioral patterns?
(How certain you are that your thoughts and opinions are your own, not
learned or adopted from somewhere?)
Cutting it short:
If you don't love yourself, you can be controlled by fear.
Because your ego protects you, but it's blind.
And with fear you can easily be manipulated to e.g. hate foreigners
("they come here to take our jobs and women"), "if you don't vote for
us, those idiots ruins the country", "if you think like we think, we
will accept you, and you'll find safety", etc. etc.
Or you can do it yourself, think about all those stories where nasty
machoguy keeps beating his girlfriend, and that girl won't leave -
because she's afraid to get abandoned...
When there is love, there is trust.
When there is lack of trust, there is suspicion.
When there is suspicion, there is fear.
When there is fear, there acts your ego.
And if you don't love yourself, you don't trust yourself.
And then you search that trust from outside.
And it's so easy to throw bones to your ego...
> then we are controlled by that too.
Yes, but if an individual is controlled by LOVE, instead of fear, what
do you think will happen?
(Actually you cannot be controlled by love from outside of you)
> so i think we not only controlled by fear, but motivated by imaginations.
Yes, but imaginations of what, and whose?
> anyway i dont like to talk about that fear thing, because its not really allowed to
>say you have fear.
Exactly, it is not allowed, because when it's realized, it can be used
much less effective... so it's easier to feed it... and keep you
manipulated without you noticing it happens...
> some people would call you weak and all this stuff. it fears me if someone says to
>me i am controlled by fear.
So, why are you afraid to be called weak?
That's your ego speaking, not YOU.
I'm not saying it's easy to find healthy self-esteem and self respect,
but it's still worth of trying, then you don't give a shit if someone
thinks you're weak, that's only their opinion, not yours.
(I fought against my ego to wrote this, now all of you think that I'm a
nutcase freak, a looser... bloody hippie-idealist, girly whimp... ;) )
>
> fear can be a protector in some cases.
>
Yes, but does it control you? Do you live and act with or without it?
...sorry, this sounds like a preacherman screaming here...
...but can you deny? or is it only your ego?...
Lenny Krawitz said it:
"Let Love Rule"
zep
a freak
