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To leave Commie, hyper to
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I'd like to switch the language at this point...

>Windowsin selaimet ovat
>  > laadukkaampia kuin muilla alustoilla (koska ne ovat Windows-natiiveja).

First, define the term "good quality"...

BTW, talking about browsers for other platforms, IE for Macintosh is 
a very good browser, for example. I don't have too much to complain 
in the general quality of the browsers for Mac, either. The only 
annoying things are slow Java and JavaScript (= ECMAScript). The 
latter has too much compatibility problems, too. But I'm not exactly 
sure, is the fault in non-standard code on the pages or in bad 
ECMAScript intepreter in the browsers...

And it's not really a problem... For me, at least. Usually the pages 
that have a lot of JavaScript errors, don't have too much to offer. 
The JS errors _are_ the content in those cases... ;)

>  > Lis�ksi, koska se on niin
>  > yleinen, k�ytt�apua, ohjeita ym. on helposti saatavilla

And being a typical Windows-user, you really _need_ all that help, 
instructions, expensive "How to use Word" -courses, nerd-friends, 
consultants, etc... because compared to the original model of the 
Windows user interface - Apple Macintosh - Windows is really 
cumbersome and illogical. A Mac-newbie can universalize the interface 
logic of the operating system to the first application he/she uses. 
After getting used to the first program, he/she can universalize the 
basic operational logic to the next program, etc...

Let's say that you're a Windows newbie and you're taking your first 
steps with Word. After writing and printing something, you try out 
WinAmp. Your first question is: "How do I open an MP3 file?". You 
don't see the same kind of "Open" button as in Word. There's no 
File-menu, either. After asking some nerd-friend of yours, he tells 
you that in WinAmp, the logic is to right-click on the WinAmp 
window... First the newbie will right-click on a wrong place, but 
eventually he/she will learn that WinAmp and Word use different 
logics for the exactly same actions...

After the newbie has listened to some MP3 files he/she wants to burn 
them on a cd. "Where are my files?" he/she asks. Depending on who 
she/he asks, he/she'll get a different answer. "Double-click on the 
My Computer icon", says the first. "Open Windows Explorer from the 
submenu of Start menu", says the other. Both ways work and both have 
different logic. "How do I move this file, now?", he/she asks after 
finding the MP3. The first advisor says: "Right-click on it, select 
copy from the contextual menu and paste it the same way into 
different folder". "Drag and drop it elsewhere", says the second 
advisor... "With left or right mouse button?" asks the newbie... It 
will take a lot of time before he/she'll learn some general 
principles of doing things in Windows... ("Right-clicking gives you 
optional commands in most cases, but not in WinAmp where it gives you 
the main commands.", "You can move files by dragging and dropping, 
unless it's a program. In that case, dragging and dropping makes an 
alias to the program instead of moving it", etc...) He/she can only 
universalize the interface logic of Microsoft programs, but not the 
logic of _all_ programs...

Compare all this to the same situation on a Mac. You can open files 
in _all_ Mac applications by selecting "open" from the "file" menu. 
There are buttons and other different methods for opening files, but 
the File-menu is always there, in every application (Hell, the 
File-menu is even in calculator, but without the option to open 
anything). There's only one file management system. You can configure 
it to look a bit different (list view, buttons, etc...), but you get 
to the contents of your hard disk always the same way. You can 
_always_ move something with drag'n'drop. In fact, in Mac, try 
dragging and dropping _first_, and if that doesn't work, think 
something else. You need about the half of the information needed to 
use Windows to operate Mac in the same level. You need half the 
mouseclicks, you get to the menus five times faster (and the menu bar 
is always in the same place which easens finding it - not to mention 
that it is in the edge of the screen, which makes really fast to 
achieve, because you don't have to slow down the speed of the mouse), 
you don't have to dig through tens of sub-pages of a control panel to 
get into some important preference of your machine (TCP/IP). Etc, 
etc...

One friend of mine has used Windows for about three years now (for 
reading email, mainly), and he _still_ doesn't remember, when to 
doubleclick, when to right-click and when to just click... There's 
nothing wrong with his brain, though. Another friend of mine looked 
me loading MP3's to a playlist of a Mac MP3 player. "How do you do 
it?" he asked. "You just throw them there?" He had never noticed, 
that you can do it in Windows too... If he'd learned that (like in 
Mac) drag'n'drop is the basic way to operate anything, he'd learned 
the way in Windows. But because Windows is just a huge pile of 
unorganized information overload, this piece of information had 
bypassed his brain.

>MS on integroinut
>>  Office-paketin softat aika hyvin niin ett� ne pelaavat yhteen aika
>  > n�tisti.

In Mac, _all_ (*) the software play together well in Office-like 
logic. Drag the picture in Internet Explorer and drop it to Eudora. 
Voil�! You just made a file attachment to your mail. Notice that 
Eudora and IE are developed by different software houses.

Don't get me wrong, though: I don't have anything against Microsoft 
(except that law suit, of course ;). But in my experience, Windows 
just is a poor Polish carbon replica of Mac. You're free to 
disagree... ;) Only BeOS has gotten even close of the Mac 
ease-of-use. (Actually, some things are made even better in Be...)

---> jab

(*) Of course there are exceptions... Like Netscape, which is very 
un-Mac-like. And most of the Macromedia products have strange 
non-universalizeable interface logic.


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