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Oh... we had some debate here... Sorry, I forgot... ;)

Seems that any kind of thread just dies on Friday...

I'm the last guy to argue that Mac would be superiour 
_technically_... Multitasking is poor, networking is poor... But the 
user interface rules. If I'd want technical superiority, I'd use some 
UNIX variant or BeOS - not Windows, which doesn't follow any 
standards.

However, this guy's argumentation is really poor on the GUI 
aspects... He doesn't seem to know very much about Mac's file system. 
Most of the features he mentions as revolutionary in Windows have 
been in Mac for more than a decade. Some statements just aren't true 
or are out of date. Mac OS 9 _has_ multiple profiles and Mac OS file 
system _can_ be navigated using the keyboard - it's just a bit 
different approach. (The more important question in this "keyboard 
shortcuts or mouse" case is, "Why use keyboard shortcuts in Mac, 
because you can use mouse five times faster than in Windows?")

Then again, this guy's whole Windows <-> Mac comparison seems to be 
rather provocative. The guy even introduces some Windows limitations 
as "features"...

Like: "Also, when new files are added to an open folder, they are 
automatically placed at the end of the list." If you click the "date 
modified" field's title bar on a Mac folder window, the new files on 
the window will show up _on_ _the_ _top_ of the window, which is far 
more intuitive: you don't have to scroll down the window every time 
you add something to it. In addition, you can reorganize the contents 
of the window by name, by kind or by size with one click. You can 
reverse the order, too...

But that's just the beginning. Mac uses file system that remembers 
the locations of your files in _every_ window - not just on the 
desktop. You can visually group the icons and they're exactly there 
where you previously left them, the next time when you start working 
with your computer again. You can give colors for your icons (without 
changing the icons). For a decade, you've been able to put comments 
on your files (Microsoft just announced comments as a revolutionary 
new feature of Windows 2000). You can easily change icons of your 
files - including folders (you can't change the icons of the folders 
in Windows, because Windows file system can't handle information this 
sophisticated). Not to mention that changing those icons is as simple 
as copy&paste.

What's more sophisticated in Mac is that the files remember which 
application created them - regardless of their file type. You can 
select twenty GIF files, double-click them and they all open to the 
program that created them. In Windows, they open to the program that 
has registered GIF file format.

The most ridiculous statement was this: "File manipulation in Mac-OS 
is limited to dragging and dropping." ... like dragging and dropping 
was some kind of limitation. To put it simple, Mac is "drag and drop 
all the time". Windows is "ehm... let's see... copy and paste maybe? 
no... try second mouse button... or should you hold shift down at the 
same time... i dunno...".

Hmmmm.... I know this is very childish, but I just have to defend my 
lovable, little Mac on my desktop... Here we go...

"It is even possible to place shortcuts (links to other files or 
hardware) on your desktop for quick access" ... what's so special in 
that? In Mac, you can drag anything on the desktop and the mounted 
harddisks are visible directly on the desktop, one step closer to 
you. Not to mention that they mount automatically (not only cd-roms, 
but hard disks and diskettes too).

In Windows, you see unmounted cd-roms on the My Computer window (not 
to mention that you should first know where to go to find them (not 
to mention that there are two different ways to browse the contents 
of your computer)). Why is it visible, if it's not there?

Unlike in Windows, in Mac you really use the desktop for the purpose 
it name implies it's there for. It's the visual TEMP folder, in 
practice. You drag files to it for temporaly storage and later you 
drag them to other application... In Windows, you usually don't even 
see the desktop - it's behind ten fullscreen applications. In Mac, 
you use desktop all the time (unless you go to the General Controls 
and explicitely turn the desktop visibility off).

The worst thing in Windows is that you can't use drag'n'drop 
effectively, because there's nothing you can drag to in full-screen 
mode (which is the usual way to run Windows apps)! If you run the 
applications in non-full-screen mode, you make most of them unusable: 
Photosop runs inside a huge window. If you make it smaller, you also 
lose your effective work space, because all the working windows are 
inside that huge window. Usually those windows you need the most are 
lost somewhere beyound the edge of the huge "mother" window.

In Mac, you have the whole screen all the time in use. You can 
drag'n'drop between applications, which is a lot faster than 
copy&paste.

In Windows "The first icon will minimize the window; sending it into 
the Task Bar at the bottom of the screen." ... but they stop fully 
responding: again you lose the drag'n'drop. You can't drag anything 
on the minimized taskbar windows, like on Mac's popup windows (on the 
bottom of the screen). You can only _open_ the Windows taskbar 
windows.

In Windows, you can use effectively taskbar windows only as long as 
there are about four or five of them - after that the window title 
names start to truncate and you won't see what do the windows contain 
with one glance. You can't select which windows are selected to be on 
the taskbar. In Mac, you can put just those windows on the bottom of 
the screen you _want_ there. (Again, just drag and drop.) What's more 
important, applications and windows are not mixed in Mac. You can see 
the open applications on the application switcher, which can float 
over the windows or can be a popupmenu on the Apple menubar.

And, Mac popup windows are _on_ _the_ _edge_ of the screen, which 
again makes a lot bigger target (infinite height). In Windows, 
taskbar buttons are one pixel off the screen edge. In Mac, you can 
just throw the mouse down and it always hits the target. In Windows, 
you have to slow down your mouse which is about five times slower 
(this is not an estimation, but a researched fact. It's not a 
coincidence that Mac menubar and the popup windows are on the edges 
of the screen.

"With Mac-OS, there is a single menu bar shared by every application 
in the system. Though it does save a small amount of space, it makes 
it difficult to determine which application's menu you are viewing." 
Well well well... This is the classical one. I don't say anything, I 
let the Mac interface designer say it.

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