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Surely sendmail reeled when thusly spake Jarmo Lundgren:

> Seems that we're talking about different things.
> 
> My point was: most of the people don't ever need most of the stuff they get 
> with an OS (any OS) nowadays.

yup.  I'm amazed at the amount of crap that comes with linux,
and how repetitive a lot of it seems to be, and how impossible 
it is to find out what the heck you have.

still, choice beats no choice.  and free beats $$$.

> >there are plenty of good email-clients out there. many people are
> >getting on to "evolution" and "sylpheed" - and i'd say a lot of people
> >use netscape or mozilla -mail apps (or whatever they are called). pine
> >isn't bad.
> 
> Tell this to my mom and let's see if she can download and install them. 
> Then we can discuss about whether she actually can use them (and the 
> Finnish localisation, which would be needed in the very beginning).
> 
> You're talking about power users and nerds, I'm talking about my mom.

hmm, I set my mom up on netscape mail.

can you think of any reason why eudora would be better for her ?

> >basically bad, but just makes me feel that have they really thought if
> >its actually good. of course it's easier to learn for people who've been
> >using windows - but is it really usable.
> 
> Yeah, I was thinking about the same, when Apple started to copy more and 
> more stuff from Windows-side to Mac. Sure, a Windows-like interface is 
> easier to learn for a person already learnt The Windows Way... but is it 
> really more usable?

what's usable for a newbie ?

software that does what you want, not what you say.

that's hard to write.  it has to be forgiving, and hyper-intuitive.

and I don't see it being written.

voice recog auta help.

> >and a lot of people don't know they can have focus-follows-mouse instead
> >of annoying point-and-click -window-activation (and i'm pretty sure
> >focus-follows-mouse is easier on ones' wrists).
> 
> Focus-follows is annoying! You've got this all upside down! :)

I don't even know that all the focus options in KDE mean,
and there's no online help to explain it.  gr-r-r-...

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