> Maybe at that time we *didn't* want to work together for some > very specific > reasons. After all, the original commons proposal, which I was part of, > was -1ed only by Peter, because we apparently had diverging opinions about > how shared code should be governed.
And what do you think about forking from Avalon's code (giving due credit) when you can not reach an agreement with them? I would prefer someone forking from my code than ignoring it. Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -----Original Message----- > From: Remy Maucherat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 10:32 PM > To: Jakarta Commons Developers List > Subject: Re: [Logging] [VOTE] Commons Logging 1.0 Release > > > > Remy Maucherat wrote: > > > > >>So that clinches it. The _initial_ HttpClient abstraction was > definitely > > >>not informed by Avalon. In fact, we had already packaged Logging as a > > >>separate component by then. (Hey, I guess I wrote the proposal. I > should > > >>add myself as a contributor!) > > >> > > >>Maybe the Avalon abstraction should have a credit to HttpClient. ;) > > > > > > +1 ;-) > > > Although, seeing all this, I'm not sure I want to be involved > in any way > > > with Avalon ;-) > > > > However, if you guys tried to work with us from the outset, much of this > > confusion would never have risen. > > Maybe at that time we *didn't* want to work together for some > very specific > reasons. After all, the original commons proposal, which I was part of, > was -1ed only by Peter, because we apparently had diverging opinions about > how shared code should be governed. > Given the number of components in the commons, I think it has been quite > successful with its goals, and it did abide by its basic principles > (openness, bazaar style repository, extremely few external > dependencies, no > imposed coding style, etc etc). > > I'm also greatly disturbed by the timing and the ferocity of your > complaints. AFAIK, nobody here did invent the facade pattern or the Logger > interface (or whatever you choose to call it). It seems Rodney > came up with > something similar to LogKit by accident. > > Now, if all you want is some credit for "being there", then so be it, you > have it :) You just could have asked it a lot sooner and in a lot > nicer way. > > Scott added that: "That is the past. This is the present, and I > WANT Avalon > and commons to work in harmony, not dischord." > Well, maybe, but the present still reminds me of the past a lot :-( > Hopefully, that's the last time it happens. > > Remy > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
